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    Evan, you're right. The E 36 must be uncut and stock throughout. The E30 must be stock and uncut.
    The Chump rules have been weak at best. The E36 is the new standard. The Miata was the standard at the start.
    We now have 30-40% of the cars are BMW. 80% of the podium cars are BMW.
    Chump has 2 -3 swapped V6 MR2 second gen. rocket fast.
    Saab 9-3 and 9-5 turbo.
    Mercedes 2.5- 3.2 4 valve
    Nissan Z32 roadster
    The "Riley" team Mazda V6 roadster
    Swapped Honda frankencars
    Turbo VWs and Hondas
    V8 RX7
    Lexus V8
    BMW E 30 swapped with M50
    A few Chevy V8 Malibu ,Camaro, a couple of C4 Vetts.
    Plenty of Mustangs V8s.
    The cars are fast, the rules weak.

    The never ending speed increase is why we have some interest for SCCA events with some sort of speed cap and classes. A good ITB car was top 5 on lap times where now it is bottom 30%lap times.

    The Chump brake rule is 2X stock value. Really no rule at all. BMW calipers are more than Wilwood. The 1 in allows the same brakes with a hard number.

    The other small SCCA conflict is the ERW cages that many Chump cars have. Most cage kits for RR or stock cars are ERW. Thus many early Chumpers are ERW tubing. Many "Autopower" cages are also ERW unless you get the upgrade. Chump allows a single pas door bar on paper, but I have never seen any.
    Thanks for the input. MM
    Last edited by Flyinglizard; 05-22-2013 at 09:41 AM.
    Mike Ogren , FWDracingguide.com, 352.4288.983 ,http://www.ogren-engineering.com/

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