Rules Nerd Help Requested

[backformore]

I am building an ITS 2000 Civic Si. These cars were built in 99 and 00 as coupes with 1.6L DOHC and sunroofs. Obviously, the sunroof has to go.

No other Civics in those years had the DOHC engine. The Civic Si is the only Civic in those years classed in ITS.

The question is, can I get a 99 or 00 non Si Civic car without a sunroof and swap over my drive train and suspension ( different front arms and rear discs) and call it legal for ITS.

I have read and re-read the rules and can convince myself the answer is yes. Or no.

Opinions?

Thanks

[mossaidis]

That's a tough one which has actually been discussed here before, perhaps ad nauseam. A quick search should yield you the sunroof thread.

[Dano77]

Sun roofs can be replaced wit a pane of the same material, isnt a roof from a non sunroof car the same material.

Just sayin,

[joeg]

There is no longer a VIN rule...correct.

Whose to say the non-sunroof wasn't a "perfect" fill job for a sunroof.

Alternatively, transplant the roof.

[lateapex911]

lemme understand the facts:
1: Only the Si is classed.
2: All Si's come with sunroofs.
Ergo, he may remove the sunroof and replace with a skin of the same material.

But, if he swaps the whole roof...then the gutters, brackets, etc go away, and he has created a model that doesn't exist.

(yes, I realize people make other cars -cough- rx-7s -cough- that are technically models that didn't exist, but IIRC there is some subtley to that situation. (or maybe not)
Either way, this seems to be a non starter except to replace the actual movable component with a lighter skin.

[Greg Amy]

If Jake's "facts" are correct then I concur with his conclusion.

We had this discussion in regard to the '95 vintage Acura Integra GS-R. I used a hardtop RS to build an ITS car. But my situation was a little bit different: while it's true that the 2-dr GSR only came with a sunroof, the 4-dr was available as a hardtop. Since they're on the same line I was able to use the "4-dr roof assembly" a 2-dr donor. Yes, it created a model that didn't exist, but that ship sailed long ago with the acceptance of using the intake from one RX-7 onto the engine of another (or whatever that deal was) which created a model that didn't exist...

In your case, sounds like you're stuck with a roof plug.

- GA