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    Default ITA CRX SI rear brake shoe choice

    Any advice on what rear brake shoe compound to run for the drums in the back? I've been happy with the OEM Honda compound but maybe want to try something different like porterfield. I know they hardly do any real hard work back there but anybody have any suggestions? Thanks

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    Save your money. Cheapest stock shoes that fit.

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    Stock OEM Honda shoes in the rear. All the weight is on the front of the car, forward motion of braking etc. I can get atleast 2 seasons (24 races) on a set of shoes if not more. Just keep them adjusted properly for good pedal feel.

    Run the Carbotech XP12's up front and they work great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeg View Post
    Save your money. Cheapest stock shoes that fit.
    I dunno about that... I used high dollar Napa Gold's and they worked plenty well.
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    last guy converted my 89 crx ITA car to disc, but my 90 hatchback (time attack type car, ever changing brake and drivertrain setups) is crazy fast and has whatever the last owner paid Midas to install.

    alway felt totally fine

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    On my old 200sx, I had Carbotech re-line a set of stock shoes with their 912 compound. It cost a bit extra but between the decreased wear and the improved brake modulation I thought it was worth it.
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    Is the 200SX RWD or FWD?

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    Oh sorry, should have specified generation. Mine was the 95-98 B-chassis (FWD) 200sx based on the Sentra platform. Not the RWD S-chassis one from the 80s.
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    Kind of late to this discussion but on my ITB Si I figure new OEM shoes every other logbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxedfox View Post
    On my old 200sx, I had Carbotech re-line a set of stock shoes with their 912 compound. It cost a bit extra but between the decreased wear and the improved brake modulation I thought it was worth it.
    Interesting. I had essentially the opposite experience... brake modulation was no better (also, no worse) than the Napa/stock parts. But hey, at least the were burned up after a couple weekends.
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    Really? Do you remember if it was the same 912 compound, or if it was a different one?

    It's entirely possible that I wasn't braking enough to really use up the pads. It was a long time ago and my driving has come a long way since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxedfox View Post
    Really? Do you remember if it was the same 912 compound, or if it was a different one?

    It's entirely possible that I wasn't braking enough to really use up the pads. It was a long time ago and my driving has come a long way since then.
    I'd be lying if I told you I remembered for sure... I went and checked their site to see if I recognized the compound. The "kelated metallic" term definitely rings a bell but that just means it was either the 912 or 913 *or* maybe a discontinued compound?? I think it would have been circa 2007-ish so things could certainly have changed since then though.
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    Gotcha. That's pretty interesting actually. Makes me want to find a rear drum car to try them on now.

    Just for reference, I had those shoes around '09 or '10, right before I switched to the Prelude.
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    That's pretty interesting actually

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    Bump for front pad recommendations. I used Hawk Blues which I found fine in feel and had great life. Then went to DTC60 and they went to shit halfway through the ARRC, they felt great for like a session and a half. I'll run a half used set of Blues for the ice, but want to try something new for the Spring.

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    If you're going to stay w/ Hawk, go with the DTC70. IMHO, they perform almost exactly like the 60's except they don't go away.

    A lot of us, however, have moved to Raybestos ST-43's, which are custom cut by Porterfield. They wear like iron, have a large temp range, and you'll never have to worry about bending backing plates, because they're waterjetted from NASCAR pads. Having used them for years on the CRX, that's what I plan on using with the new race car (a '96 Civic EX).
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    Thanks a lot Gregg. I'll call Raceshopper to inquire about the ST-43, I'm in no way married to the Hawks. I just want something that'll work and be consistent.

    The backing plate was the issue on the DTC60, one pad had a palpable bend to it, like 3/8", and tremendous wear.

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    You'll find that most race pads, whether it be Hawk, Carbotech, etc use a thinnerbacking plate than OEM.

    Because of how the Raybestos pads are cut, the backing plates are much thicker than what Honda ships their pads on.
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    I have a set of DTC60s that have a lot of stopping power. I haven't experienced the fade as mentioned, but I have bent the backing plates on three different sets of Hawk pads(they came with the car). I'm thinking about looking into those Raybestos pads on my next change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webhound View Post
    Thanks a lot Gregg. I'll call Raceshopper to inquire about the ST-43...
    BTW--I'm pretty sure the only place you're going to be able to get them is Porterfield.

    http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/
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