View Poll Results: Who would support aftermarket coolant bottles?

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  1. #1
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    Apr 2008
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    Default coolant bottle

    Can we change this and the plumbing to use one or does it need to remain stock?
    I don't have a GCR with me and my phone is HORRIBLE to try and find it.

    Thanks,
    Stephen

  2. #2
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    Oct 2011
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    Hickory NC
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    I use mine as an oil overflow catch can.

  3. #3
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    OK So I got my answer... NOT legal to remove or use an alternate overflow bottle in IT. Bummer I kinda wanted to run an aftermarket one as they are much less expensive and I could mount it near the firewall away from the front of the car.

    Oh-well Stock it shall stay!!

    Stephen



    3. Engine Cooling System
    a. Any radiator may be used, provided it is mounted in the original
    location, maintains the same plane as the original core and
    requires no body or structure modifications to install. No new
    openings created by fitting an alternate radiator may be used
    for the purpose of ducting air to the engine.
    b. Oil cooler(s) may be added or substituted. Location within the
    bodywork is unrestricted, provided that it/they are not mounted
    within the driver/passenger compartment.
    c. Cooling fans may be removed or replaced. Electrically operated
    fans with manual or automatic actuation may be fitted.
    d. Thermostats may be modified, removed, or replaced with
    blanking sleeves or restrictors.
    e. Air conditioning systems may be removed in whole or in part.
    f. Screens of one-fourth (1/4) inch minimum mesh may be
    mounted in front of the radiator and/or oil cooler(s) and
    contained within the bodywork.
    g. Engine coolant fluid, coolant/heater hoses and clamps may be
    substituted. Heater hoses may be plugged or bypassed (looped)
    or removed. Heater water control valve(s) may be added or
    substituted. Heater core shall not be removed.

  4. #4
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    Nov 2004
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    Boyertown, PA- USA
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    Unfortunately, *functional* replacement coolant overflow tanks are extremely rare for my car. I have substituted one (actually, the car builder did...) that is made of the same material (plastic), and is of the same*critical* dimensions (working volume) as stock. Whereas the stock bottle was designed based on working volume, and was formed irregularly for packaging reasons only, I would cite 9.1.3.C as a basis for the substitution. Keep in mind, I'm not saying this isn't a very tortured interpretation of this rule, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I would much prefer we allow it, as I would expect that if I were protested on this specific item, I'd likely be found non-compliant.

    9.1.3.C

    Stock replacement parts may be obtained from sources other than the
    manufacturer provided they are the exact equivalent of the original parts.
    The intent of this rule is to allow the competitor to obtain replacement
    parts from standard industry outlets, e.g., auto-parts distributors, rather
    than from the manufacturer. It is not intended to allow parts that do not
    meet all dimensional and material specifications of new parts from the
    manufacturer.
    Matt Green

    ITAC Member- 2012-??
    Tire Shaver at TreadZone- www.treadzone.com
    #96 Dodge Shelby Charger ITB- Mine, mine, all mine!
    I was around when they actually improved Improved Touring! (and now I'm trying not to mess it up!)

  5. #5
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    Matt, I would argue in your favor given the information you've stated and the rules as posted. Going from a 20lb coolant bottle to a 2lb bottle, I could understand. (i.e. my F250 holds a couple gallons of coolant and is quite thick to hold system pressure.)
    a non-pressurized expansion tank doesn't weigh much to begin with and are prone to rot. Good luck finding one in good shape for a 20 yr old car, and they're stupid expensive at the dealership- If you can even get them.
    If the factory bottle held 2qts and your replacement held 2qts and was mounted in the same location (oh noes!! he moved 2LBS in his engine bay!), then I'd argue that your replacement is within the intent of the rules and IT philosophy, and contains no competitive advantage.
    Houston Region
    STU Nissan 240SX
    EProd RX7

  6. #6
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    Jan 2001
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    Buffalo, New York
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    Remember, GCR overides ITCS. 9.3.15 states that OEM is kept when it is pressurized and working.

    My resvoir is not pressurized, so I went aluminum.

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