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    Default Roll cage sectioning??

    I am helping a friend move a cage from one car to another. He has cut the cage in various places (not the main hoop) to facilitate installation. My question is although we have sleeves to reinforce the cuts and holes drilled to plug weld, what else is required? Is there a diameter hole that should be drilled to plug weld. As always, thanks, Chuck
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    GCR 9.4.G.7, p113 in the August PDF, "Removable roll cage bracing..." Otherwise I suggest full welding around the entire perimeter of both ends of the section sleeve.

    As you noted, the main hoop must be contiguous.

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    in the case of door bars etc... I'd be inclined to replace them after installing the recovered main and front hoops or halo and bracing.

    Very likely, this is an opportunity to upgrade the design, is a small cost vs. a new cage, and these are the beams most likely to see bending loads which you do NOT want to see fail. reconstituded beams don't deform as cleanly as whole ones.

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    We have door bars both sides. I read the GCR 9.4.G.7, p113 in the August PDF about bracing but it does not address welding. It does, however, address modifying the main hoop but there is nothing to link the two together. My plan is to butt weld the two tubes with an inner tube plug welded in position equidistant from the center weld. Anyone see any problems with that? Thanks, Chuck
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    Chuck,

    That sounds like the way to do it. Maybe have a 1/16" gap so you are welding the inner piece in as you butt weld it.

    Then if you have a couple of 3/8" or so weld-plug holes about an inch from that seam would mean the inner section would be about 3" long.
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    May I suggest you consult the local tech inspector who will be the one to issue the log book for the new car and see what he will accept?
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