lexan widows

[manny]

This past week end i noticed some IT cars with lexan windows, i was wondering has this become legal or not? Would help to reach weight.

[Chip42]

not legal*. where did you see them, sebring for the Turkey Trots?
*cars like the MR2 and fierro can replace the rear glass if the cage goes through it, but that's the only exception.

[Ron Earp]

There is/was a Porsche 911 in FL running ITR with lexan windows. Started right in front of me in this video:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx31kJSsyJc[/ame]

I can't remember if there are any others we saw with lexan, but I did see some shaved door handles in IT. I do remember thinking that "they do IT a bit different" in FL.

R

[Chip42]

there's definately a subset of our fair state that does IT differently. they tend to be from south FL and slow, so when they venture north or we venture south they get beat, and the cheating goes unaddressed. An ITR 911 simillar to the one you mention wasn't keeping ahead of Steve's ITB MR2 this weekend, for example.

I suppose the no-tech regional points races (CFR, not SARRC) has somethign to do with this.

I had a chat with the owner of one blatently illegal car this weekend. he's a long time acquaintence so it was a more pleasant conversation than it could have been. he didn't end up running (because the car was too slow on friday) but he had a wing, orange anodized Al control arms, brembo brakes, etc... and had no idea that any of it was illegal, and then defended it as saying the car was too slow for it to matter. I tried to explain the image that it presented about FL to the rest of the country, but he didn't really seem to care. I told him about ST and suggested he look into that next time.

[Knestis]

..."they do IT a bit different" in FL

Quoted for posterity.

K

[Ron Earp]

Quoted for posterity.

K

I've only been down to FL to race once and it was a lot of fun. Iconic track, good people, and we got to meet face to face a few of the regulars here and on the brown board.

I remember seeing a few odd things in IT. There was a 911 that had a full interior running ITR, I thought that was pretty cool and certainly not illegal. The full on race lexan window 911 that I mentioned, then I remember some shaved door handled car, along with one car employing a cold ram air intake. To each his own, but I'm not sure one couldn't find issues like that in other region's paddocks. FL just had so many cars in the ITR, ITS, ITA, ITB, IT7 run groups that chances are there will be some odd ducks in the mix and not necessarily from FL either.

[quadzjr]

Ron I know the 911 you were talking about. I told him about his window a weekend running sebring short course. I told him I have no dog in the fight but I think it should be addressed. I do not know when, but the issue was addressed. The car in yoru video was the same 911 that was there this weekend with normal glass. However it maintained the aluminum strpas for some reason?? I confirmed it when I was walking the paddock this weekend with my brother (first race he has attended and entering the double school in february)The car was WOAH fast in a straight line (at least compared to me in the ITB MR2) and WOAH slow in the corners. The driver was very courteous however and did not just drive around me every straight. At the end of the race I lost brakes and lost touch with the battle ahead of me.. I pointed him around and all was good.

There has been some blatantly illegal cars that we have addressed in the past that did not go over as well. An certain ITB CRX with a JDM D15 with vtec comes to mind.

The Daytona race is a big one.. easy to get to and often puts the entire IT field in one group. big turnouts. in 08' when I ran the ITA civic, and Christian(sp) was breaking in the ITA EF civic sedan, and Hoppe broke the track record (I think) in his ITA integra there was 88 IT cars on track not including ITC. So like you said do to the numbers.. it will be easy to find one that is illegal.

[manny]

well, even if i am one of the slower cars in ITB i will still develope and drive my heavy beast . i"ll do my best to beat you with a legal car. BTW one of the cars i saw was an ITB car with side and back lexan windows. What i dont like is that you have quests and family there to watch and enjoy the place and they see these other cars just flying around you and they ask why your not as fast and i try to explain to them that those cars arent legal and they look at you and say how do they get away doing that. i have no way of answering them. But in all i had a GREAT week end and i will be there no matter what. Big thanks to Mike Horn, great guy