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    Online registration for The Devil in the Dark is open on DLB - set your filter for South Jersey Region to see the event calendar.

    Supps and Schedule ... Register ... Entry List

    Earlybird registration with a $100 price reduction is available until 21 February. Submitting an Intent to Enter will hold the Earlybird price and your spot in this year's race. Pit spaces will be selected in order of entry sequence.

    See ya at The Devil

    Terry
    Last edited by Terry Hanushek; 03-13-2012 at 12:15 PM. Reason: update URL

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    Looks like a great event... Hoping to run one of these days!!!
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    We'd LOVE to get enough drivers together to do it in Pablo, with his new blue paint...



    K

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    Nice and Shiney!!!

    Stephen

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    Nice paint, K.
    Every time we have waxed the Golf, it has gotten wacked.


    The basic marketing/econ 101 is premised on the cost per return.
    Most cost- less sales. If the cost to race the amateur endurance races, includes a fuel rig, you will have less racers, simple math.
    As soon as you remove the time limit for fuel stops, you up the tech wars for fueling speed, more cost= less racing.

    That simple rule will remove the three ITC guys from saying, "hey, lets go run the 12 hr, you bring tires, you bring fuel , I'll bring the car"

    I race and respect all of my venues for what they are. I have cars that race SCCA, NASA, Chumpcar,track days. All have some redeeming value. somewhere.
    Evey where tho, less rules equate to less racing and more cost.

    SCCA Pro, used to Run Trans Am. The series cost a lot . The racing was poor inthe 2001 -2002years. The front guys drove off for the most part.
    Most teams could be a few as 3 guys., No pit stops, 1 hr on track( to fit the TV slots).
    Pro came up with new rules that required pit stops for fuel. Now you need 4 guys, fuel rigs, fresh tires, Tires/ wheels and fuel systems that can be serviced fast.
    The cost per weekend doubled. The cost outlay per car was about 5-6k for improvements. For the same win cash. GT1 Teams stayed home.
    I am pretty sure ,That was the last year for SCCA/ TA.

    When I say to copy success, I mean to copy the stuff known to work. Upping the cost , does not increase racers. KISS and reasonable cost.
    Pick the best points that have made something successful.
    Chumpcar does just that. Chumpcar is running the best endurance series right now. One class , great trophies, good tracks. it is not perfect at all . The 500$ car thing is BS.
    SCCA runs pretty good value sprint races.
    Mike Ogren , FWDracingguide.com, 352.4288.983 ,http://www.ogren-engineering.com/

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    Let's be clear about the paint thing... A few weeks ago, it looked like this:



    The point at which that, the bumper/grill, and the LF fender were replaced, and everything else was between a million and a zillion track miles old, it was time. Pablo is a racer, not a show dog.

    K

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    That's some serious body work Kirk! And if you end up running Pablo in NJ, give me a call!

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    Bimmerworld came with their enduro car... had about 20 laps on the field. Fast car, huge cell and pro crew! TrackPro/Bulldog smashed their M3 in the rain causing one of only two FCY's... Limitless Racing was there with their R8 LMS, but were only running 2.5 hours to test for the GA race. The car was fast and sounded awesome!! Their rookie started the race from pole, spun and made it back to first before the driver change. They don't have a pro crew... I think the Bimmerworld car had the lead the whole rest of the way. The number white 61 Mx5 Cup car had a fuel pickup/sending unit issue that we found the hard way and got towed in for our first stop! :/ but solid driving and awesome stops got us back up to 10th overall which we held even when we lost 4th and then 5th and then 6th!! Fortunately for us it rained pretty solid for the last two hours... We still were passing people! I fueled that car in a last minute deal with Hale Motorsports and had a great time!!!!

    Some bumping and banging out there, pretty clean overall... Body Motion had a Caymen there that was second over all. Dog Gone Racing was the leading Spec Racer in 9th overall and technically 3rd in class(E2). Some good tight racing out there between Miata's... Not sure how E3 turned out. The ITB VW's ran well as far as I could tell... Not sure if they ever had to stop for gas! LOL

    Some what random off the top of my head stuff. I wasn't smart enough to get a results sheet...
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    Kirk said that they had parts breakage that never happened before. He suspects manufacturing issues.
    The Radial Motorsports Acura finished 3rd O/A and 1st in class behind the BMW and Porsche. Not bad for a 1.8 liter car that ran the entire time it was raining on dry tires.
    Tom Beverly is the new rain god!

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    Quote Originally Posted by callard View Post
    Kirk said that they had parts breakage that never happened before. He suspects manufacturing issues.
    The Radial Motorsports Acura finished 3rd O/A and 1st in class behind the BMW and Porsche. Not bad for a 1.8 liter car that ran the entire time it was raining on dry tires.
    Tom Beverly is the new rain god!
    Pics of these broken parts are coming soon. Stay tuned.

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    Congratulations to Harold Petit, Randy Mueller, David Baker and Scott Baker from the #28 Johnstone Supply Team BMW M3 for their second consecutive victory in The Devil in the Dark 2012. This year the team covered 433 laps exceeding last year's winning total of by five laps.

    And congratulations to the other 38 teams that hit the track in the third edition of The Devil. Several teams struggled with mechanical gremlins, a few did not finish but 30 teams were still running when the checker flag flew at the end of the 12 hours.

    Class Podiums

    E1

    1 - #28 Johnstone Supply BMW M3 - 433 laps
    2 - #20 Bodymotion Racing 1 Porsche Cayman - 415 laps
    3 - #92 Team Track Pro BMW M3 - 288 laps

    E2

    1 - #94 Radial Motorsports Acura Integra - 405 laps
    2 - #99 Elgin Racing Mazda MX5 - 403 laps
    3 - #21 Dog Gone Racing Spec Racer Ford - 396 laps

    E3

    1 - #58 Henwood Motorsports / Main Line Overland Miata - 403 laps
    2 - #32 Flatout Motorsports 2 Miata - 402 laps
    3 - #91 Bollywoodlawn Sync'd Miata - 399 laps

    E4

    1 - #2 Team Troxell VW Golf - 341 laps
    2 - #9 Ted Hulse Racing Honda Si - 313 laps
    3 - #42 Maximum Attack Motorsports 2 VW Golf - 303 laps

    The complete results are at: http://www.nediv.com/images/results/...linthedark.pdf

    Thanks to all of the teams who helped make this year's 12 Hour a very successful event.

    See ya same time, same place next year

    Terry

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonl View Post
    Pics of these broken parts are coming soon. Stay tuned.

    Brandon





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    We loved the Watkins Glen 4 hr this year so we are now thinking that this event is a "Must do" for 2013! Does anyone know how many drivers you can enter for a car? entry form last year had 5 spots BUT nothing limited the drivers. Sadly we will need to stop every Hr with the RX8 for gas. Since you need to exit the car to do a pit stop why not change out drivers. Thinking if 11 or 12 of us did this it wouldnt be that expensive and I think we could afford it

    We use about 1 gallon of fuel every 5 minutes so it looks like 150 gallons for the race and probably up over 220gallons for the event. $850 in gas

    2 sets of tires $1K each (not hoosiers, maybe BFG)

    entry fee $750

    Brakes $300 (Do you all change them 1/2 way??)

    Complete fluid flush Oil $20, rear end $30, tranny $30

    And if NOTHING Breaks.... that might be all the expense? thoughts??

    4K plus travel and food??

    Stephen

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