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    Default What to do for midyear maintenance

    I’ve been running the ITA CRX SI at local autocross events so I can get up to speed on driving FWDs figuring out tire press and fuel consumption.


    Things are going pretty good I figure since my co driver and I are climbing the results ladder.

    So the car is off the trailer and I need to make a list of things to check and repair

    After several missed shifts the shifter linkage is the only major thing on the list

    What would guys/gals recommend I look at while the car is up on jack stands?


    The Koni shocks are a big mystery, do these things have clicks? Looks like the fronts where set on full stiff

    I disconnected the front sway bar and started turning the knob counter clockwise (I was very surprised at the max clockwise setting they were at)

    The car is a little easier to drive but it did not improve the times just kept me from spinning so much; also the total roll angle went up a little

    Any suggestions






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    The shocks shouldn't change the total lean or steady-state balance (over- vs. understeer) but disconnecting the bar would do both. Shocks control the balance in transitions - as the suspension is moving from bump to droop. KONIs don't have clicks. You have to keep track of where the adjuster is in terms of turns from full stiff or full soft. They make a plastic knob that makes the job easier but they always seem to wander off out of toolboxes.

    There are probably Honda-specific things that others can recommend you check but it's good practice to actually torque any bolt that holds on something you care about (e.g., subframe, suspension arms, etc.) If you haven't had it apart, I'd recommend you break them loose, lubricate them and then run them to the factory spec.

    Check the CV boots for leakage and look for any dampness anywhere oil or fluids should be kept inside of something - pan gasket, hoses, etc. If any bushing is loose enough that you can actually feel play, it needs attention. Check brake lines.

    I've seen two Hondae fail the nut (I think it's castleated?) that at the bottom of the front hub. It wasn't good in either situation so check with someone smarter than me and do whatever is required.

    It sounds like this car is fairly new to you so it might be that the FIRST thing it needs is a really good cleaning. It's very hard to spot leaks and (surprisingly, maybe) we are less likely to do a good job with inspection and service on something crappy that's dropping junk in your eyes when you put your hands up in there. You might need to start there.

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    I had read that disconnecting the front bar on a CRX would help a noob driver so I disconnected the front bar.

    That made the car less tail happy but did not make the car faster; it did keep me from spinning so much

    Now the front bar being disconnected caused the front to hop around some turns which lead to a front shock adj

    The car went from hopping around corners to pogoing pretty quick

    (I was surprised to find the shocks had been maxed out)

    1) Fix shift linkage
    2) Cleaning
    3) AFP regulator
    4) Find out why it’s running rich
    5) Re-torque major bolts
    6) ??

    David
    Last edited by Davegt74; 09-03-2011 at 02:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davegt74 View Post
    I had read that disconnecting the front bar on a CRX would help a noob driver so I disconnected the front bar.

    That made the car less tail happy but did not make the car faster; it did keep me from spinning so much
    I don't know squat about FWD, but that runs contrary to everything I think I know about suspension design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle7 View Post
    I don't know squat about FWD, but that runs contrary to everything I think I know about suspension design.



    No its spot on with all the common suspension thought

    The anti-roll bar is used to limit roll so if you take it off it will roll like an old Chevy

    This rolling takes time (or it takes time to take a set) so the effect is good for a beginner.

    On my RWD Opel we would never in a million years take off the front bar but if I put in the small stock bar I would get like 3 degrees of body roll and the car would be slow

    I am doing the same thing with the Honda until I learn how to drive again.

    Yeah kind of screwy but it is working knocked off 4 seconds since I started.

    you have to sort of tip toe around with the FWD, the left front tire has 700lbs static load on the tire so it does not take too much before you over load the tires

    The rules makers’ blindly adding weight to these small cars is not a wise move

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davegt74 View Post


    The rules makers’ blindly adding weight to these small cars is not a wise move

    davegt27

    ?????

    Do you mean the weight that was added years and years ago (5? 7?) and then the CRX went out and still won every big race in ITA in this country??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davegt74 View Post
    I had read that disconnecting the front bar on a CRX would help a noob driver so I disconnected the front bar.

    That made the car less tail happy but did not make the car faster; it did keep me from spinning so much
    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle7 View Post
    I don't know squat about FWD, but that runs contrary to everything I think I know about suspension design.
    Quote Originally Posted by Davegt74 View Post
    No its spot on with all the common suspension thought

    The anti-roll bar is used to limit roll so if you take it off it will roll like an old Chevy
    Yes, it will certainly roll more. I was referring to it being LESS tail-happy. Seems to me that removing the front bar would make it MORE tail-happy. Glad it's working for you.
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