Bumper support material removal interpretation...

[Greg Amy]

Funny you should bring this up, as I had the plastic fascia nose and bumper off the 'Teg off last week. Mine's heavy too. I was reading that rule, and I was at the point where I was debating the work "recognize": if it's hidden under the fascia, and the fascia maintains its outline without it, is it not "recognizable"?

I chose to reinstall it for three basic reasons:

- I hit s**t, especially s**t in front of me, and
- It's where my tow hook is attached to, and I'm too damn lazy to re-engineering it.
- I hit s**t.

I don't see in the rules where you can add in aluminum, as that would be - effectively - replacing it with an alternate material. So I think it's non-compliant, but I really doubt anyone would notice...or even care. But have your way at it will hole saws and Sawz-All, for sure. - GA

[Z3_GoCar]

Dang! Don't the Yo! JD maufacturers believe in using alu-minimum for their bumpers? ( )

Mine's maybe 20lbs including the plastice, bumper bar, bumper shocks and radiator core support.

[Matt93SE]

I should have weighed it before I started cutting. I've probably only removed about 5 lb from it so far, but the steel bumper alone is 20lb. there's another "filler" bracket along the top that's another 5lb. The plastic and styrofoam is another 8-10 maybe.

[Knestis]

Damn. It's a shame it doesn't say "lighten and/or reinforce." THAT would have been a deja vu moment right there...

K

[Chip42]

Dang! Don't the Yo! JD maufacturers believe in using alu-minimum for their bumpers? ( )

Mine's maybe 20lbs including the plastice, bumper bar, bumper shocks and radiator core support.

no, they (the JDM yo OEM's) are more interested with making stuff affordably. durability seems like a nice touch, too. the philosophical differences between ze germans and the japanese starts at bolt standards and goes on from there with no convergence. the only thing I can find that they share is a drive to do it better than the yankees. they waged war in the 30's and 40's with similar attitudes to what we now see in their cars. I swear every honda through the 90's has a hidden chrysanthemum stamp on it...

Matt: grab a big hole saw and start cutting the heavy crap out. leave the mounting structures, the outlines, and some webs in between hole saw cuts. should keep the thing strong enough to hold itself up and bump draft, just consider it a wear item if you like to "hit s**t"

[ajmr2]

- I hit s**t, especially s**t in front of me, and
- It's where my tow hook is attached to, and I'm too damn lazy to re-engineering it.
- I hit s**t.

You'll wish you had left it alone at some point. A little war wound is better than a new bumper and radiator for those oops moments. RAMMING SPEED!

[Matt93SE]

...So I cut all the weight off the ends and left the battering ram in the middle...

And just to aggravate the bug that flew up Knestis's arse, I reinforced it with a layer of black spray paint.