September 2011 Fastrack

[Greg Amy]

On the other hand, an LS powered Solstice.....

We'd classify that in STO in a "heartbeat"...har-de-har...

[Matt93SE]

On the other hand, an LS powered Solstice.....

How much tire can you stick under a Solstice? that sounds like fun. for about 5 laps.

[Andy Bettencourt]

How much tire can you stick under a Solstice? that sounds like fun. for about 5 laps.

A LOT of tire.

[lawtonglenn]

would this be STU or STO?

[mossaidis]

2.0L GTI turbo motor in my 1984 Scirocco... ...hmmmmm, interesting.

Already done! Talk to Tom Hansen...

[Chip42]

would this be STU or STO?

STO. gonna be hell with that little TIR though...

[rcc85]

How about a Buick V8 in a Triumph?

Bob Clifton
#05 ITB Dodge Daytona

[Andy Bettencourt]

How about a Buick V8 in a Triumph?

Bob Clifton
#05 ITB Dodge Daytona

That's a dumb as a Ford V8 in a Sunbeam.

[Rud]

The power steering rule would be a tricky one. The Miata rule doesn't work. Miatas came with or without power steering.

The advantage for Miatas (NAs, at least) is that the PS rack is quicker than the stock manual rack. By depowering the PS rack, you lose the parasitic drag and weight of the PS components and get to keep the faster steering.

[JeffYoung]

That was sold in the US by Chrysler....

That's a dumb as a Ford V8 in a Sunbeam.

[Andy Bettencourt]

That was sold in the US by Chrysler....

...and had lighting by Lucas... OYE!

[tderonne]

...and had lighting by Lucas... OYE!

"lighting"?

The dim, flicker, and off punchline comes to mind.

[quadzjr]

all these crazy combinations and yet still no non-USDM motor allowed...

[Greg Amy]

all these crazy combinations and yet still no non-USDM motor allowed...

What response did you get when you wrote to the CRB and to your BoD rep to express your displeasure with that ruling? Could you send me a copy of that response?

Greg

[Z3_GoCar]

...and had lighting by Lucas... OYE!

Ah yes, that would be:

Lucus, [Devil voice] the prince of darkness.... [/Devil voice]

[Chip42]

The advantage for Miatas (NAs, at least) is that the PS rack is quicker than the stock manual rack. By depowering the PS rack, you lose the parasitic drag and weight of the PS components and get to keep the faster steering.

While that is true of most power steering racks vs. their manual counterparts, the question I have is "so?"


really - does it matter? is there REALLY an inherent advantage to faster steering? I'm sure some manual racks have so much mechanical advantage as to be a chore to use on the track, but I've never heard anyone complain about it on a miata or otherwise. hell, some people see power steering as having an advantage over manual in the first place, and would argue that removing it does nothing but slow you down from fatigue.

[Chip42]

What response did you get when you wrote to the CRB and to your BoD rep to express your displeasure with that ruling? Could you send me a copy of that response?

Greg

Steve and I have the same BoD rep, Robin Langlotz, who seemed to think it was a CRB issue but was supportive of per-engine allowance when we discussed it with him. he also voted against all this SFI HNR nonsense. we're happy with him

[Matt93SE]

What response did you get when you wrote to the CRB and to your BoD rep to express your displeasure with that ruling? Could you send me a copy of that response?

Greg

I bet it said:
"Thank you for your input."

[JLawton]

really - does it matter? is there REALLY an inherent advantage to faster steering? I'm sure some manual racks have so much mechanical advantage as to be a chore to use on the track, but I've never heard anyone complain about it on a miata or otherwise. hell, some people see power steering as having an advantage over manual in the first place, and would argue that removing it does nothing but slow you down from fatigue.

I have tried power and manual, quicker and slower racks and would take quick powersteering rack ANY day!! I felt I could react faster when the back end stepped out. Although I have found that with the manual rack I use less multiple steering inputs (less sawing). My problem was I was blowing up powersteering pumps and throwing the accessory belt.

but that's just me.

[Chip42]

I have tried power and manual, quicker and slower racks and would take quick powersteering rack ANY day!!

thanks Jeff, that's the kind of feedback I'm looking for!