View Poll Results: Should non-USDM motors be allowed in ST?

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Thread: Should NON-US motors be allowed in ST?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    Chris, I think that's a good first step. (But why only JDM?)
    He actually requested "non-USDM". I think we tend to revert to using a generic "JDM" (yo!) for everything not-US, like "Kleenex".
    I hope the STAC takes the time to sit down and before the request letter arrives, creates a policy that describes what they will require to allow any request...
    Nothing will happen on this issue without significant membership input.

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    Here was my request.

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    Letter #3798
    Title: Include Non USDM Engines
    Request: Please include non US Market engines. I suggest that these engine packages be approved on a case by case basis. Require a VTS to be generated and that those packages can only run by that "STU" VTS. Competitors will be required to sumit documentation to support requested classifications."

    I did this to officalize it and get it into the system. Keep in mind that this was my suggestion, not writen into law. My thinking is that all non US Market engine packages would need to have a VTS, just like an ex WC touring car.
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    So it's for STU only?

    That seems to fail to help fix the most glaring issue of the ST category, the apparent lack of diverse options for competitive STL cars, and allowing SOME diversity for STL could have helped in that regard.
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    I am open to the idea in STL also. My proposal was with VTS allowances. That right now seems to be something that we are staying away from in STL. I am for it if we can find an "easy" button for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    So it's for STU only?
    Hater!

    STL is Regional-Only right now. Let's get our National house in order and see how that works out first, then we can let things flow downhill. I'd prefer to see exactly what it is that's going to flow downhill first...

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    I'll just say that I've been at the bottom of the hill for 5 years at my current job. there's only ONE thing that rolls downhill, and trust me.... you guys want nothing of it.
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    alright - I expect the STAC to get 34 letters about the USDM thing from the March Fastrack as that's how many votes we have on the issue here, and I know you are the motivated set.

    I'd LIKE you all to vote FOR allowing non-USDM motors, but all I'm asking is that you submit your letter with your opinion and your reasons.

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    #4259 Submitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip42 View Post
    alright - I expect the STAC to get 34 letters...
    We've received three.

    There's no rush; after all, this is a rule change and would not go into affect until 2012. But if you have an opinion, best to make it known... - GA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    We've received three.

    There's no rush; after all, this is a rule change and would not go into affect until 2012. But if you have an opinion, best to make it known... - GA
    Its on my todo list

    I feel pretty strongly about this and I need some practice writing letters to the CRB/ITAC/STAC/ETC so I will be ready to write in regarding the V8 Camaro and Firebird in ITR...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    We've received three.

    There's no rush; after all, this is a rule change and would not go into affect until 2012. But if you have an opinion, best to make it known... - GA
    Seeing as I'm on record with the request, would a letter in support of myself cary any weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip42 View Post
    Seeing as I'm on record with the request, would a letter in support of myself cary any weight?
    No need, I'll ensure your old letter is added into the pile. - GA

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    Greg, if you're just looking for filler, pull up #2428 from last August and throw it on the pile too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt93SE View Post
    Greg, if you're just looking for filler, pull up #2428 from last August and throw it on the pile too.
    Done.

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    Sooooo.... Any progress on this?
    Changed the coolant in my car over the weekend and I'm finding more oil in the water than there was last time I changed it. this engine is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt93SE View Post
    Sooooo.... Any progress on this?
    Nope. We have to give it a few months waiting for membership input before we can make a recommendation to the CRB...stay tuned. - GA

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    I figured that's where we were. Do I need to have the rest of the local STU fanbois write letters too?
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    Of course. Members may not realize it, that while this isn't a pure democracy vote, many issues are resolved either way based on only a handful of letters. For example, I think we only have about 6-7 letters on this issue...

    Our next concall is Monday, I don't know if this issue is on the agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    For example, I think we only have about 6-7 letters on this issue...

    Our next concall is Monday, I don't know if this issue is on the agenda.
    That's nuts. for all the talk I see everywhere about it, you'd think more than 5 people would have taken the time to write in.

    I'll hit up the other STU guys and make sure they write in.
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    I wrote in! But I don't have an ST car. Not sure if my opinion counts, LOL
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