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    http://narrc.com/rules.html

    Darn....with 12 races (11 + double points runoffs) I would have
    hoped that we could drop a couple, only counting the best 9 or so...
    it is going to be difficult for everyone to make all these races, and so
    the championship becomes more of a participation award

    or I am missing a line in the rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawtonglenn View Post
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    http://narrc.com/rules.html

    Darn....with 12 races (11 + double points runoffs) I would have
    hoped that we could drop a couple, only counting the best 9 or so...
    it is going to be difficult for everyone to make all these races, and so
    the championship becomes more of a participation award

    or I am missing a line in the rules?

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    You are not. I wrote e-mail after e-mail after e-mail to the NARRC Committee about how bad of a decision I thought that was. They refuse to correct it no matter what the drivers say they want. I refuse to believe that a series that could end up in an 'attendance award' helps the series one single bit.

    I told them, they refused.

    Write your letters I guess. [email protected]

    I suggested the best 8 of 12 races.

    I even offered to RUN the NARRC series and get a committee together...if there were voting members who really didn't give a crap about the series or their votes. No response. Sad really. I bet the NARRC and Pro IT could join forces up here in the Northeast and really put something great together.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    Not totally true Andy, I was more than willing to turn it over! I even suggested it to you!
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    Letter written to [email protected]. Everyone please feel free to
    copy and send under your own name.


    "Dear NARRC Committee:

    I think it is a mistake to count all 12 races (11 + double points runoff) for
    the championship. This opens the very real possibility that the championship will
    become a prize for perfect attendance. In my opinion, that would degrade the
    importance of a NARRC championship, now and in future years.

    I recommend that the championship points be changed to "the sum of the points
    earned in the best 8 finishes".

    Respectfully Submitted,

    Glenn Lawton
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    7 weekends for 11 events (NARRC Runoffs is double points)

    1) Rounds 1&2 on May 7-8 at Pocono hosted by NNJ Double (w/Pro IT)
    2) Rounds 3&4 on May 28-29 at NHMS hosted by NER (Double)
    3) Round 5 on June 18 at LRP hosted by NER (Single)
    4) Round 6 on 6 July 2 at LRP hosted by MoHud (w/NNJ) (Single)
    5) Rounds 7&8 on July 23-24 at WGI hosted by Glen (Double (w/Pro IT))
    6) Rounds 9&10 on August 20-21 at NJMP Thunderbolt hosted by NNJ & SJR (Double)
    7) Round 11 September 30-October 1 at LRP hosted by NYR (Double Points)

    make it so you drop a weekend or 2 not by events.

    Also: NARRC winner stickers for 2011 - do we want a smaller version of the NARRC oval with a 2011 winner rocker on the bottom? I'll have what ever we decide at Pocono then get them to the regions so we can have these at each event.
    Thanks,
    Darrell Anthony

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    So what happened to 50% plus one to qualify fror the championship? Oh yeah and you need more than xx point to qualify as well. Seems as though the rules have about as much stability as water,or are we taking notes from the NASCAR play book and changing the system just when we figured it out.

    Dan
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    Missed something in the rules about qualifing for a championship

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    No more points to qualify. Hey Dan, there's a seat on the NARRC committee waiting for you.
    Speaking of seats......There is a drivers rep. seat available on the committee! ANYONE??
    Jerry
    NER South

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    Quote Originally Posted by ner88 View Post
    No more points to qualify. Hey Dan, there's a seat on the NARRC committee waiting for you.
    Speaking of seats......There is a drivers rep. seat available on the committee! ANYONE??
    EDIT: how up to date is this committee page? http://www.narrc.com/committee.html

    Which position is currently open?
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    The position of Divers Rep is open. I resigned this past winter when I saw the rules package developed by the committee with (what appeared to me) to be virtually zero consideration from driver input.

    The committee is made up of the RE and Race Chairman of each of the Regions that make up the NARRC Series. In MOST cases, these people don't race anymore and in my opinion, are not in touch with the realities and economics of todays racer landscape.

    I have indeed volunteered to take over the NARRC Series, it's admin, the race scheduling, etc but only Jerry even commented. I figured that if they didn't really care to listen to the drivers, then I was wasting my time and effort.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    What's the reasoning for the rules package? Who's on the committee?
    I'll admit, that most years I don't bother running for the NARRC championship. (OK, I did try once), but I can tell you any temptation has been removed now. (But, I'm probably not the guy that they're trying to attract.)
    Still, it's really just a 'show up most often' trophy now. I just don't see the depth of drivers to have a real competition over so many rounds.
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    Some say participation, some would say consistency...
    Chris Rallo "the kid"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRallo View Post
    Some say participation, some would say consistency...
    Take a look at the results from 2010 and tell me that....
    Andy Bettencourt
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