2011 Race At Charlotte Motor Speedway - Format?

[JeffYoung]

Just trying to think this through logically.

1. I don't think a lot of SARRC racers will tow longish (more than 3 hours) distances for a single SARRC. Don't SARRC entires make up most of the entries in a regional weekend?

2. I don't think a double CCPS will entice a lot of folks to tow more than 3 hours either, while a double SARRC would.

Since we are all worried about $$ and getting enough entries to make this weekend work going forward, isn't the best setup a Double SARRC and single CCPS or ECR?

[seckerich]

I understand a waiver is needed to do a double SARRC since each sponsoring region (NCR and CCR) already have a double on the calendar. We'll talk to region leadership and see what we can do.

SARRC rules allow one double SARRC per facility, with a max of 4 SARRC races per region. No waiver needed. Track time with a 12:00 start on Sunday is what we have to work around. Be aware the format is on the schedule as tentative so we can have it worked out at Jeckyl meeting. Keep the feedback coming, support goes a long way to making this race happen.

CCR Regional Executive

[Ron Earp]

Sat - bear in mind it is summer and a long day
15 min Qualify for SAARC1 and CCPS, All groups
Race SAARCs
15 min Qualify for SAARC2, all groups
Run CCPS

Sun
Noon, start racing second SAARCs

[seckerich]

Sunday you have just enough time to run the SARRC races with a 5 hour window. That is why we are planning to run with the lights and have a very long Saturday. I will run a time sheet and see what will fit this weekend. Might be able to get an ECR in. Reason we did not put that in initially is we have had many promises and then poor turnout for the ECR compared to the CCPS. Can not burn up 2.5 hours of track time under lights for 20 cars.

[Knestis]

I know I'm a very special case (fly-in) but I really like the sounds of what I think Steve is describing. I can skip just one SARRC and not have to travel home in the middle of the night Sunday.

Rock on.

K

[Hotshoe]

The SARRC is the draw of the weekend and making it a double really makes the race shine and attractive to a large audience. Sat night single CCPS sounds good but I bet a Sat night ECR sounds even better to a wider audience.

As proposed in June the weekend was a double SARRC and ECR under the lights. Sometime between June and now management made it a double CCPS and single SARRC without discussion outside themselves.

Ron,

..... How about this.

.... A Double SARRC with a Double Carolina Cup.

.... Here is the kicker....... The CCP races will both be run on Saturday after the SARRC races Maybe even under the lights.... There would only be one qualifying session and that would be for the first race. Qualifying order for race two would be the finishing order of race one. With a 30 minute break between races
.... This way we can have our cake and eat it to.

[JeffYoung]

Makes sense to me. We had talked about an ECR in the evening, which wouldn't take much more time than 2 CCPS races.

[Mike Mackaman]

If you build it, I will come. I missed the last race at CMS due to recovering from an apendectomy and coming up one rod bearing shell short a week before the race. The Divorce will be final by then, count me in. My headlights don't work, but I can fix that by then!!!

Mike

[Hotshoe]

Since this is in the " Talking / Planning" stage...... Can IT be group one then SM be 2 groups later.... Like ( IT group 1 . ....SM group 3 )

[JeffYoung]

Also, here's some numbers to chew on:

March Memories 2010:

CCPS: 49 entries
SARRC: 46

Note single SARRC.

Memorial Monster May 2010

CCPS: 32
Double SARRC: 103


Goblins Go:

CCPS: 32
SARRC (single): 101 (excluding Prod Car turnout which was high due to Prodfest, include that and you get 42 more entries)

Looks to me like a Double SARRC is the way to draw the most entries.

[Hotshoe]

Looks to me like a Double SARRC is the way to draw the most entries.

Amen........ And if you put the Double Carolina Cup races on Saturday evening / night.... You would get a Full Boat for sure......

I would almost be tempted to make a wager on it.......

[JeffYoung]

I think you are right.

Double Sarrc, double CCPS.

[Cobrar05]

how many in the goblins go ECR? wasnt it like 60?

[JeffYoung]

Yes, big field.

ECRs are odd. Sometimes they draw big fields, sometimes not.

how many in the goblins go ECR? wasnt it like 60?

[Hotshoe]

Yes, big field.

ECRs are odd. Sometimes they draw big fields, sometimes not.

Jeff,

.... The only reason the Goblins Go ECR had such a good turn out was because it was on Saturday afternoon, and quite a few of the entrants ( Myself and a team car included) were tuning up for the 13hr.

.... Placement on the schedule sometimes makes a big difference as to how many drivers sign up for a race. The CCPS race was the very last race on Sunday and it had 38 cars entered only ten cars less than the ECR that was run right after lunch on the same day.

.... If the CCPS race would have been given the same consideration as the ECR on Saturday or Sunday I would bet that the numbers would have been the same, maybe even better ( because you can run without a crew ).

[Bryan88]

I vote for "A"........double sarrc with the ecr under the lights.......

both Parrish cars will be there......

[Cobrar05]

the ecr is more inclusive. more classes are allowed to race. bes

[pballance]

I don't really have a dog in this fight as I may not be able to make the 8 hour tow, but I would not even consider it unless it was a double SARRC.

Paul

[JeffYoung]

Thanks Paul.

I figured that would be the case for most folks looking at towing more than 3-4 hours.

[seckerich]

Don't worry, we could never pay the rent for less than a good Double SARRC.