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    Default STx in DI Pro IT

    I'm thinking of asking the series administrator to consider opening the DI Pro IT series to STU and STL cars next year. Any thoughts?
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    I don't think its a good idea... Its ProIT, not ProST :/ SM fits because its such a similar ruleset. ST is a whole 'nother ball of wax...

    Ntm The car counts in ProIT do NOT seem to need help(in the NE) so it would only dilute the competition.

    If you want to double dip, most places have an ITE/U/O that would work.

    That said, its not a bad thought and kudos for putting it out there!


    Lots more to say but I'll keep it simple.
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    Hi guys,
    I am new on the forums, however I will put my 2-cents in. I think this will be a disaster for ITS and ITR. Lots of these STU cars are very fast on the straight aways and slower around turns, this would hold up the ITS/ITR group. I believe it would lower enrollment in ITS/ITR and overall hurt the series

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    I think it's a good question. I'm not familiar w/ the series operator, but IMHO, it's all about the health of the series. If the car counts are low in a venue, the welcome gate typically gets opened. (Reference the Mid Ohio IT Fest, now featuring non-IT cars to help pay the track bills.)
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    Car counts are not low.
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    Don't do it!

    If you want hire car counts then do a split start Pro-it and Pro-sm. Just remember we already have to qualify to race at lime rock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude12 View Post
    Hi guys,
    I am new on the forums, however I will put my 2-cents in. I think this will be a disaster for ITS and ITR. Lots of these STU cars are very fast on the straight aways and slower around turns, this would hold up the ITS/ITR group. I believe it would lower enrollment in ITS/ITR and overall hurt the series
    It's like that in all classes, you have your front runners, middle of the packers and the runners up.

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    Only thing I heard so far for sure for 2011 is changing the finish points, there will be a cap on those. Once we get things finalized they will be published on www.ProITSeries.com.

    We are still working on the schedule. Did hear maybe split starts, a competition yellow to bunch the field at 20 minute mark and only count x of y races toward championship. Also had a request to use the pro course at Lime Rock (but no National at LRP in 2011 so we may not go there in 2011?!?!). All under discussion.

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    If STL is included I'll participate, but if you're already filling the fields I see no value in it for the series. - GA

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    I appreciate the suggestion running ST in Pro IT but I think it wouldn't be much fun. The top STU cars are putting down 300hp to the wheels - not really IT performance...
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    I want the name of the person who wants to use the pro course at Lime Rock. So I can beat them with a stick. LOL

    Who the heck would want to wreck a good flowing track? Ugh.

    I bet the Team Di Pro OT could get a run group during a Regional at LRP. I know I would double dip there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    Who the heck would want to wreck a good Miata track? Ugh.
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    LOL - you got that one Greg! Sure ain't a big HP track. Maybe crapping up the flow will jam up AB :-)

    sorta sounds like it could constipate him...
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    I agree with Andy, who would want to run the other course at limerock. This would def. take away from enrollment. Alot of people do not like the optional course

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude12 View Post
    ...who would want to run the other course at limerock.
    Me. Don't you have any interest in trying something new? It's hard to take "a lot of people's" opinions on the matter since as far as I know other than ALMS drivers no one's raced it that way...

    Throw in some spice once in a while, try something new.

    Just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    Me. Don't you have any interest in trying something new? It's hard to take "a lot of people's" opinions on the matter since as far as I know other than ALMS drivers no one's raced it that way...

    Throw in some spice once in a while, try something new.

    Just sayin'.

    GA
    I'll do you one better, lets set up cones all the way down the front straight and let's make half of it an autox. And according to you, EVERY track is a Miata track!!! Let's put a couple more bus-stops at Pocono...

    The Club @ LRP has run it and I have not heard any good feedback. There is a difference between adding spice to enhance flavor and wrecking the meal. I bet you would have a ton of people NOT go if that was the format. It's an afterthought design intended to keep uber-fast cars slow and safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    Me. Don't you have any interest in trying something new? It's hard to take "a lot of people's" opinions on the matter since as far as I know other than ALMS drivers no one's raced it that way...

    Throw in some spice once in a while, try something new.

    Just sayin'.

    GA
    I agree with Mr. GA, something new is something good, like the pro course @ Mid O and the crashcar course @ the glen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthony1k View Post
    I'm thinking of asking the series administrator to consider opening the DI Pro IT series to STU and STL cars next year. Any thoughts?
    Anthony,

    On a serious note... why? What is wrong with running already existing races in regional or national races weekends?

    Stephen

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenB View Post
    Anthony,

    On a serious note... why? What is wrong with running already existing races in regional or national races weekends?

    Stephen
    Stephen...nothing. I just threw out a question that fueled a spirited and fun debate. It is clear where opinions are so it sounds like a non starter.
    Anthony
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