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    Default Frankenstein Swaps in the Long races?

    Is there a class that would accept a Frankenstein car in one of the long enduros? Like the VIR 13 hour or the NJMP race. What I'm specifically thinking of is something like an e30 bmw with an engine from a different manufacturer that burns a different type of fuel. Could that be classed is something eligible for the 13 hour?

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    In theory it sounds like ITE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossaidis View Post
    In theory it sounds like ITE.
    In theory. ITE rules in New England wouldn't technically allow it.
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    We're at the mercy of regional rules. My guess is that NCR would probably be OK with pretty much anything running in the 13 hours as long as entries are down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knestis View Post
    We're at the mercy of regional rules. My guess is that NCR would probably be OK with pretty much anything running in the 13 hours as long as entries are down.

    K
    Well, good. That is in keeping with the enduro tradition isn't it? Have you see the things they run around the 'ring with every year?

    Anyone know of an E30 being unloaded? Maybe ex spec E30 or some such.

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    Careful now.

    ITE rules are vary a lot by region. I'm not sure what the folks at NC region had in mind, but their rules appear more restrictive than most. They have also used the WDC region ITE rules for the 13-hour (this year they called those cars ITF). I don't believe an alternate fuel engine swap is currently allowed by either the NC or WDC regions. I don't see any reason they would not allow it if you ask, but I would strongly recommend running this by someone with authority before putting a lot of effort into the car. Don't just go by a tech inspector either, they would be a good resource for some issues, but have no authority over the rules if trouble comes up.

    Diesel is allowed in certain cases, so I see no reason it would be banned in ITE/ITF. Anything more exotic is probably a non-starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conover View Post
    Is there a class that would accept a Frankenstein car in one of the long enduros? Like the VIR 13 hour or the NJMP race. What I'm specifically thinking of is something like an e30 bmw with an engine from a different manufacturer that burns a different type of fuel. Could that be classed is something eligible for the 13 hour?
    a SHERMAN MKIV should fit the bill. 50cal Brownings to pick off any pesky spec pinatas that try to pass and a 75MM long gun to eliminate the big stuff, such as vettes, GTA,etc...also still runs on pump gas so no alternative fuel rules to worry about....LOL

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    The Sherman is a nice vintage choice, although it's going to have a tough time keeping up if a rich guy shows up with his M1-A2.
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    The M1-A2 doesn't qualify under the GCR rule that doesn't allow turbines. Also wouldn't qualify for vintage enduro races.

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    Dang, tripped up again on the no-turbine-engine rule...
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    Evan,
    Looks like the comp board added the NASA and BMW cars to the original rules. Maybe I should have a few of the Porsche folks call Ed and as to be added - they have such pretty cars
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