STL - what's going to be hot?

[Greg Amy]

Yes on the base weight but the Miata gets +2.5% for being RWD.

Sorry, but where is that specified? I honestly don't recall seeing that...

On edit: Sorry, just found it. That's in a terrible location in the rules, guys! Why is that buried in a rule about re-fabricated rear suspensions in STO and STU??? I see a line that starts with "STO and STU cars that come with a solid rear axle..." and it doesn't apply to me and I move on. Dropping in a coda that has nothing to do with that opening line is bad ju-ju...Seriously, move that rule to the the STL-specific section, like where the minimum weights are specified...? While you're at it, delete and move the .18 one to its appropriate class-specific area, too.

As a general rule-writing rule, if a line applies only to a specific class, move it to the specific class's rules section.

So, as you can tell, this 2.5% is truly news to me, I thought FWD and RWD were on equal weight parity. Being a FWD'er I'm OK with it, of course; after all, we've had many prior technical discussions about the relative value of FWD vs RWD, and I'm on record that FWD should get a weight break. On the other hand, 2.5% ain't that bad; it's only 62 pounds on 2500...

So scratch that sentence of mine you refer to, I see where the RWD'ers get a tad more weight. - GA

[Dano77]

I saw the 2.5% adder as well,thats why a Rotary will not be Competitive in STL. 2600# plus 2.5% for rwd is a stout 2665. Whats the rolecage break point for bigger tubes?
No porting,polishing,carb allowance,nothing to help the power output at all.
STU Streetport,carb,efi with pnp megasquirt,fab the suspension parts. huh

The first gen is probably not the hot setup. Thats the only one I looked at. The second gen and third gen cars maybe. the RX8,who knows they already have that much weight on them.

Dan 77 IT7

[Andy Bettencourt]

Sorry, but where is that specified? I honestly don't recall seeing that...

It's in the Aug FT. Strut FWD gets -2.5% and RWD gets +2.5% RUle #9 on page 10 of the FT.

It's a tough draft to wade through with all the cross outs.

[Dano77]

Found it,the correct wieght for a 12a in STU is 2350 -50 for soild axle rear wheel drive
13b is 2400 with the same allowance. There is a fasttrack for the carb allowance for the 13b only. not the renisis. Thats stuck(ha)with EFI

12a in STL is 2600 +2.5%

Why is STL a good idea again if you dont have a FWD car under 2.0?

Dan

[Rabbit07]

Found it,the correct wieght for a 12a in STU is 2350 -50 for soild axle rear wheel drive
13b is 2400 with the same allowance. There is a fasttrack for the carb allowance for the 13b only. not the renisis. Thats stuck(ha)with EFI

12a in STL is 2600 +2.5%

Why is STL a good idea again if you dont have a FWD car under 2.0?

Dan

Depends on the weapon, inherently RWD is going to perform better than FWD, so instead of providing a weight break for FWD, there is a weight adder for RWD. essentially, the SLA front drive car is the basis with strut FWD getting a reduction in weight, and the RWD getting a addition in weight. We know that the non SLA RWD cars aren't adjsuted. The thought there is that most of them can get enough Caster to help them handle better that FWD strut cars usually can not attain.