Factory manual

[timo944]

The GCR requires competitors to have a factory manual available. Does this have to be printed or can it be electronic, assuming said competitor has the means with which to view the manual (i.e laptop).

If printed, does it have to be an original or is a copy sufficient?

Thanks...timo

[Z3_GoCar]

I suspose it depends on what you've got. When I go to the dealer, the only manual I can find for my Z3 is published by Robert Bentley. So, that's what I have...

[timo944]

So I'll bring the Haynes!!!

[Greg Amy]

So I'll bring the Haynes!!!

Haynes ain't gonna cut it.

[Chris Humphrey]

My GCR is on disc. I'd think a FSM on disc is good.

[Streetwise guy]

This is a rule that is going to become......troublesome, to say the least. I defy an owner of a late model european car to provide a "Factory" manual, unless he's willing to subscribe to the manufacturers online site, and have the neccesary hardware to run it.

[Greg Amy]

This is a rule that is going to become......troublesome, to say the least.

Trying to verify the proper specifications in impound for a 1976 car is also "troublesome" (at best). It's the competitor's responsibility to provide the manual that the factory declares is its "official" manual.

In my mind, the inability to procure such a manual is akin to the inability to procure fenders, rods, wheel bearings, what-have-you. It all fits in that "warts and all" section of the GCR (or ITCS, I don't remember which). As a scrutineer, I can tell you that should you be protested and/or called down by tech for inspection, and you cannot provide the factory manual listing the specs in question, it's an automatic "fale".

GA

[timo944]

Greg,

I agree. My original question though is "is electronic adequate?". I have it on disc but have never printed it.

Yes - I was kidding about the Haynes.

- Tim

[Greg Amy]

Yes, in my mind electronic is adequate. I don't think there's ever been an official ruling on that, but I'd accept it, myself.

GA, who developed an inordinate anti-social, near-sociopathic HATRED of Haynes manuals while growing up and learning to work on cars...only John Muir saved me from the clinker and allowed me to reach auto repair Nirvana...

[GKR_17]

I can tell you that should you be protested and/or called down by tech for inspection, and you cannot provide the factory manual listing the specs in question, it's an automatic "fale".

I wish that logic was more common. Part of my first protest was not allowed since I could not supply factory documentation on the cam duration for a BMW 2002 (the protested driver only supplied the Haynes, and I was given 15 minutes to produce the proper paperwork). Fortunately, from what I was told, once the valve cover was removed you could still read Schrick on the cam...