thanks guys. a fiberglass version of the piece in the pic is for sale on the production website. until andy mentioned it i forgot that the production cars use different body panels. i didn't think it covered the stock grill opening and i figured i could trim the bottom if it was too low. my miata is on jack stands and i'm unable to measure from the center of the hub to the top of the bumper but it looks pretty close to 4 inches. either way it won't fit the contour of the stock body so i guess it's a no-go. too bad it would look bada## on my ita miata