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    Rules have changed. We worked with NCR starting 18 months ago to make sure the car is ITE legal. It is ITE legal, under the NCR rules and has an ITE log book. It took some work, and there was some teeth gnashing over it, bit it is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    Rules have changed. We worked with NCR starting 18 months ago to make sure the car is ITE legal. It is ITE legal, under the NCR rules and has an ITE log book. It took some work, and there was some teeth gnashing over it, bit it is in.

    Paper away.
    Last year, anything tech would allow was legal for NCR ITE. This year the rules are different. The only eligible cars are WSC, World Challenge, Fire Hawk, other “T” type cars that are not approved for competition, and the Volvo S60R. Which one is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    Rules have changed. We worked with NCR starting 18 months ago to make sure the car is ITE legal. It is ITE legal, under the NCR rules and has an ITE log book. It took some work, and there was some teeth gnashing over it, bit it is in.

    Paper away.
    What do I care, I don't run in ITE.

    Quote Originally Posted by GKR_17 View Post
    Last year, anything tech would allow was legal for NCR ITE. This year the rules are different. The only eligible cars are WSC, World Challenge, Fire Hawk, other “T” type cars that are not approved for competition, and the Volvo S60R. Which one is this?
    Reading the NCR ITE rules, I'm guessing that the car falls under the "..eligible cars include WSC (World Sportscar Championship???)..." catch-all.

    Just so long as the Mustang engine was legal for when the car ran WSC.

    Double wow .

    That means that if someone wants to show up with an XJR-14 they could run as ITE, as long as they were on DoTs.

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    ITE up in the NE is a bring your wallet class. Pretty much anything goes.
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    Yes, WSC (World Sports Car Challenge).

    Actually, Lolas ran in that class with small block Fords and small and big block Chevies. Lots of engine options.

    Quote Originally Posted by GKR_17 View Post
    Last year, anything tech would allow was legal for NCR ITE. This year the rules are different. The only eligible cars are WSC, World Challenge, Fire Hawk, other “T” type cars that are not approved for competition, and the Volvo S60R. Which one is this?
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    A small block powered Lola in IT and you have been arguing about washer bottles and plastic motor mounts!!!!!:026::026:
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleXL240Z View Post
    A small block powered Lola in IT and you have been arguing about washer bottles and plastic motor mounts!!!!!:026::026:

    In all fairness, ITE is hardly 'regular' IT. As long as I've seen it, it's been pretty much ITEverthingelse.

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    Also -- you could buy a Lola back in the day for the "street." I'm sure it sucked, but there were some street legal T70s is my understanding.

    Ron's car has turn signals, a cigarette lighter, running lights etc. NCDMV certified, and with a license tag for street use. Crazy driving that sucker on the streets in Cary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    Also -- you could buy a Lola back in the day for the "street." I'm sure it sucked, but there were some street legal T70s is my understanding.

    Ron's car has turn signals, a cigarette lighter, running lights etc. NCDMV certified, and with a license tag for street use. Crazy driving that sucker on the streets in Cary.
    No seat warmers or DVD player?????
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    It's got a Ford 302 seat warmer about 6 inches from your back/ass!
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    I know!! Its an absolutely beautiful car!! Thats one of the things I love about working with SVRA/HSR is that the original ones will be in the paddock next to you every morning. Listening to one of the injected "not 250hp" ones warming up is sexier than socks on a rooster!!! And watching them run is even better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleXL240Z View Post
    "sexier than socks on a rooster!!!"
    Ahh what????
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    To the original topic - I have only taken my ITB car to the track 1 time since the 2008 ARRC...

    So unless Vaughn, Beran, Duece, Peter or Aaron's cars have not been racing in that period I vote for mine!

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    I can't reiterate enough that the real answer is the Geo Storm GSi. I am willing to bet you could build one with a stock motor, some bolt on's and an IT-level suspension and win the ARRC. Why?

    It's 130hp stock. It ITB that puts it about 2700lbs but it's at 2455. In perspective, that is 10hp more and 95lbs less than the ARRC winning Accords.

    It's really about a 2300lb ITA car.......
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    Except...you are racing a Geo Storm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    Except...you are racing a Geo Storm....
    Right, because Golfs, Accords and the like conjure up so much automotive nirvana... LMAO.
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    I totally agree!

    Any ITB driver with ANY aesthetics would of course choose the Shape of Things that Break.

    Or maybe an Opel GT.

    The rest? Boxy anti-racecars!
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    I own two Fire Arrows ITB and they are fast. One is a 5 time Atlanta Pro It Champion and the other will make its official visit to regional racing At VIR in October. See the cars at www.plymouthfirearrow.com I ran the time trials at Road Atlanta and my times were faster than the those qualifying for the Pro It race... given that the car was brand new, five year old tires and 9 years since I had been on the track...I would say the car will be a front runner with new tires and a little more track time. The Suzuki Swift Gti is not competitive on tracks like VIR and Road Atlanta due to the tranny ratios. I agree that the Geo Storm is the real sleeper.
    Last edited by plymouthfirearrow; 08-19-2010 at 11:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    I totally agree!

    Any ITB driver with ANY aesthetics would of course choose the Shape of Things that Break.

    Or maybe an Opel GT.

    The rest? Boxy anti-racecars!
    If you can find a way to keep the head from warping and binding the cam box up, then you might emerge......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    I totally agree!

    Any ITB driver with ANY aesthetics would of course choose the Shape of Things that Break.

    Or maybe an Opel GT.

    The rest? Boxy anti-racecars!
    um - MR2?

    Not a sleeper (more like a creeper) but it's certainly no Accord. you should like it, Jeff - it's roughly wedge shaped. but it doesn't break...

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