The best ITB car nobody is racing?

[chuck baader]

Great idea, Jeff....run a Can-Am car in IT....marvelous..cb

[Tristan Smith]

Jeff, got any pictures of the Lola? Sounds like fun.

[JeffYoung]

Here you go (from Ron's build diary):

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/lola-t70-...spider-13.html

[gran racing]

To clarify, you're seeing Accords versus Preludes. Very few others have built ITB Preludes.

[Knestis]

LOL - I hear "low horsepower" and don't see "Fauxla"

K

[Andy Bettencourt]

A real ITS Miata will be a fuel pig, just like my ITA car. De-tune it all you want but then it's a Spec Miata on some PED's.

I'll pull some fuel usage numbers from the S2000 this weekend.

[erlrich]

To clarify, you're seeing Accords versus Preludes. Very few others have built ITB Preludes.

Dave, you're right of course - I was actually thinking Civics, sorry about that. I mean, c'mon, only an idiot would build a Prelude....

[GKR_17]

We've been developing a Lola T70 replica (Ron owns it and has done most of the work), that Cameron has called the "Fauxla." After a classing "discussion" with NCR, it's been classed in ITE.

Not to be a party pooper (again), but have you reviewed that class decision with NCR this year? It was NCR ITE eligible in 2009, but the 2010 rules are very different.

"Eligible Cars include WSC, World Challenge, Fire Hawk and other “T” type cars that are not approved for competition. Additionally, the Volvo S60R is eligible for competition."

Might fit under WSC rules, and right now I don't know for sure what a "T" type car is. If it's not one of those, then it's not legal this year either. Or is the "T" there specifically for T70?

[GKR_17]

Also e-21 BMW 320i oe is ~125hp, has rack&pinion steering and a getrag 5speed box.

Not quite.
The US versions had 110 hp for the 2.0 liter (77-79) with drum rears and a four speed. The 1.8 liter had 101 hp with disc rear brakes and the five speed. I ran a '77 for the better part of a decade, it was a good car, but I'd build something else for B today.

The Suzuki Swift was clearly faster, but was nothing short of explosive in terms of reliability. A car like that definitely makes you appreciate the Miata.

[gran racing]

I actually have to agree with you Earl. Everything is custom for that car, can't get parts, a lengthy PITA build.

[quadzjr]

that motor is only 250 hp? you sure added alot of money with the bling and left the internals stock.

[Greg Amy]

Something tells me that 250 ponies in that lightweight chassis is scary enough, thankyouverymuch...

[JeffYoung]

Grafton, we are all square with NCR on the classing. Took some work but it is good for ITE. They've got another catch all class now too, ITF or some such.

Greg, yep, it's enough power. May not have been for the UTCC, but for the enduro, plenty. The esses are a little bit more nerve wracking than in an SM.

[Bill Miller]

I can spill the beans that, as of yesterday, Pablo is not going to be at the 13 hours, but I will - in a Miata.

(Cue gloomy end-of-world theme music)



K

Kirk,

If you want to talk about solid Miatae that run at the front of enduros, talk to John Weisberg.

[quadzjr]

I am not saying it isn't enough power or if it would be scary to drive. What I do know is typically if yo usee a ford V8 looking in that condtion it has more than stock hp. I assumed you got the number from a dyno. do internals have to remain stock in ITE? very cool car none the less. Hopefully nobody puts a wheel on it.

[JeffYoung]

Estimate from the builder. It's got a Demon carb, but a really mild cam and heads. The exhaust is nice work, but that's not where the power is on those.

We max at about 140 mph on the backstraight at VIR.

[ulfelder]

I still think a set of patient drivers in an S2000 could cruise around just in front of the buzzing hoard of Miata's then lay the wood to them whenever they chose.

I know what you're angling for, partner. Keep dreamin'.

[Andy Bettencourt]

Kirk,

If you want to talk about solid Miatae that run at the front of enduros, talk to John Weisberg.

Is this the Charge of the Headlight Brigade? Team had a great time there last year on the way to P1.

[Bill Miller]

Is this the Charge of the Headlight Brigade? Team had a great time there last year on the way to P1.

That's the one Andy. They also did well the year before at both Summit and VIR, as well as the 24 at Nelson.

Jeff,

That car looks cool as hell! Need crew?

[jjjanos]

Grafton, we are all square with NCR on the classing. Took some work but it is good for ITE. They've got another catch all class now too, ITF or some such.

Appear to be DC Region ITE rules -- cars that ran in professional series on DOT tires.

The purpose of the WDCR-ITE class is to allow cars from different organized series that competed on DOT tires and a stock chassis to compete on a regional level.

Pretty certain that the Lola doesn't fall in that category. Someone wants to throw paper at you, they are going to win...