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    the biggest bump came in an area of the curve not used during racing. otherwise, the stock OBDII ECU does a very, very good job.
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    after talking to Mike VS and his brother Kip, they saw decent gains on teh older miatas, and according to Kip it was absolutely necessary on the ITS miata. Travis who tuned your car? and how did they do it?
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    Sam Henry of Springfield Dyno did it.

    Done the same way you'd tune any car i'd guess. start at idle, and gradually working your way through the map increasing load and RPM as you go. add/remove fuel until you get to you target AF ratio, add/remove timing until it quits making power.

    i did send the sheet to Jerry @ DIY and he said my results are in line with what he would expect for a car working within in the IT ruleset.

    and this was as good of a comparison as you can get, with dyno runs done at the beginning of the day on the OEM ECU after already optimizing base timing & fuel pressure, MS plugged in and tuned, then OEM ECU plugged back in at the end of the day immediately after the two best runs with the tuned Megasquirt.

    and yes, i would expect the 94-95 miatas to see bigger gains from the MS (or any other standalone) than i did on my 96. remember all that stuff about why the car should be listed based on the 128 number vs the 133? my experience verifies that decision as being appropriate.
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    Kip and Mike are pretty open about the Miatas. I don't know much about Mike's ITA Miata (don't even know if it is a 1.6 or 1.8) but I do know Kip told me the computer was necessary on the 99 ITS car in order to get it to rev to make power. I think he told me around 160, maybe slightly more, peak rwhp.

    My personal view is that the Miatae are strong, nearly unbeatable at Roebling, but weaker at the up/down tracks like VIR and Road Atlanta.
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    Mike is a straight forward guy, I like his solution to the old computer rule, I can't remember the name brand of the computer but it was pretty slick. He may sell it on his website? Hell you could buy his whole car for 12k or less! Well you espeically could since it was rolled at roebling a month ago.

    on the ITS cars htere were alot of teethign issues with the standalone, but I guess Kip figured it out while he was up north.
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    As i recall, he was blowing cam angle sensor with all to frequent regularity...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    As i recall, he was blowing cam angle sensor with all to frequent regularity...
    correct.. if you give kip about 2 hours maybe more he can tell you the whole story! haha
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