94 Protege classification

[wepsbee]

I dont think I missed the listing that is why I am sending out this thread. I am looking at building up a 94 Mazda Protege 1.8. Why you ask, it is because I can transfer many dollars worth of components from the car I currently have to the Protege and also get factory support. Anyway I looked in the GCR to make sure it would be classed in ITA but only the 90-93 1.8 is listed. I could not find it listed anywhere. I have a factory manual and various other documentation that shows this car exists. I have sent an email to SCCA but no response yet. Would you suggest other types of communications or is that all there is?

[Greg Amy]

ITB, dood. Look for the 99-00 listing.

That 1.8L Protege kicked some serious tail at the ARRC last November...with a little more development it'll be a rocket ship.

[wepsbee]

ITB, dood. Look for the 99-00 listing.

That 1.8L Protege kicked some serious tail at the ARRC last November...with a little more development it'll be a rocket ship.

Just for my clarification I shall ask, Why would a 90-93 be ITA but 94 be ITB? Also how would it be classed in 99-00 listing? Same engine and frame.

[Greg Amy]

90-93 is in ITA
94 not classified
95-98 is in ITA
99-00 is in ITB


Why? "Because".

[wepsbee]

QUOTE=Greg Amy;304430]90-93 is in ITA
99-00 is in ITB
94-98 is not classified.

Why? "Because".[/QUOTE]
OK that explains it!!!! So if I want to use this car I need to get it classified. Is that worth the trouble or would it be loads smarter to get a 93?

[Andy Bettencourt]

Post the stock hp for each car and if it's SOHC or DOHC and what years.
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The 1999-00 Protege ES is a 122hp 1.8L. Given those numbers, it was estimated that it would have a real hard time getting to an ITA weight of around 2165 (1980 without driver) and a curb weight of around 2550lbs. It was placed in ITB using a 30% adder (because all 16V cars in ITB get 30% per the CRB. )

The 90-93 car is listed at 125hp and about a 2450lb curb weight.

In 1994, there were two different versions of the 1.8. A SOHC and a DOHC. The DOHC was the same motor as the Miata except exhaust manifold (rated at 128hp) with the carried over 125hp rating. The SOHC 1.8 was rated at 103hp.

Adding the 1994 year to the current listing should be a no-brainer as it had the same motor and body as the 1990-1993. 1995 transitioned to the different body and went backwards to the 122hp rating.

The reason most cars or years aren't in the ITCS is simply because people have not requested it yet.

[Greg Amy]

I was impressed with that Protege at the ARRC; were I headed to ITB that car would be one of the ones on my list.

Conversely, were I headed to ITA, that car would not be...make this simple comparison:

- Mazda Miata, xxx ponies, rear wheel drive, multi-link a-arm suspension, perfect weight balance, 2380#
- Mazda Protege, less than xxx ponies (smaller MAF, worse intake manifold), front wheel drive, strut suspension, nose heavy, 2325#

Any questions...?

On edit:
In looking at the GCR to make the above comparison, I see I missed the 95-98 in ITA. Prior post corrected. Note that the 95-98 and the 90-93 Protege in ITA are classified at the same weight, but the later car has higher compression, longer wheelbase, and better gear ratios. Given a choice, I'd not go for the earlier one in ITA...