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    Butch .... I am pretty disappointed that the ARRC as the championship race for the IT classes is getting more eroded every year. We need to do something to keep the ARRC as "the ARRC".

    My suggestions:

    * raise the entry fee some for the IT classes, maybe by $50?
    * Put all the IT classes into the same groups, max 2 per group and do a split start for each group.

    Ex:

    A + C
    S + 7
    R + B

    ProIT on friday for those who want to do a double weekend and the enduro on Sunday for those who want to do a triple.

    Put all the Smash Miatas in one group and you have 5 groups left to fill up the ranks and give the spectators a variety of cars to watch.

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    No ITB Ron?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPiFF View Post
    * raise the entry fee some for the IT classes, maybe by $50?
    Hell, I'd easily pay $150 or more additional for the privilege.

    I make that long, two-day-each-way tow for one reason: to joust for the Improved Touring "National Championship". The cost of that event entry is truly piss money compared to the investment in time, motivation, energy, and travel money to be there.

    Dilute that attraction, and you dilute the value far more than you do by increasing the entry fee.

    Quote Originally Posted by gran racing View Post
    No ITB Ron?
    "R + B" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gran racing View Post
    No ITB Ron?
    In my original post I was just making a single example based on SARRC groups. Does B usualy run with ITR,ITS,IT7,ITA for SARRC races?

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    Cross-posted from RRAX.com, in case you don't go there:

    Can you get behind this?

    Group 1 - ITA, split start for IT7, ITC, ITT
    Group 2 - SMX, split start for SP-2, SP-3
    Group 3 - ITR & ITS, split start for ITB
    Group 4 - SM, SM2, SSM
    Groups 5-9 - you guys don't care (other than STU would be in there somewhere for guys that want to double up)

    All races would be 20 laps or 45 minutes (the sun doesn't set until 6:40 and if everyone ran the full time we'd get the last checker at 5:45) and everyone would pay the same entry fee (projected at $295 compared to $275 in 2009).

    Based on the past three years, that'd put 39.7 cars in Group 1 and 32.4 in Group 3. You'd have more chance to watch your buddies races, the ITA/SM double-dippers would have two groups in between to make any changes, and the SM/SMX double-dippers would have one group in between.

    I know that nobody wants to be Group 1, but last year it was SM and the year before it was ITB/ITC. We'll continue to rotate that each year (or at least until the BoD makes IT a Runoffs class, at which time I'll retire).

    Let me know...
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    Since there are rumblings that We might attempt the trip is there a Helpful Hints column/section?
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