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    There will be a 35-minute time limit (which is plenty to finish 20 laps in all groups if no FCY is required), plus we'll have an extra hour of daylight compared to past years (DST ends on 11/7).
    My reaction was similar to Greg's. Do you possibly know what the percentages are of run groups not having a FCY?

    The fear is with many people traveling so far to attend, people are much less accepting of shortened race especially given the nature of this event. Maybe this is a great idea and will work out just fine. Don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gran racing View Post
    My reaction was similar to Greg's. Do you possibly know what the percentages are of run groups not having a FCY?

    The fear is with many people traveling so far to attend, people are much less accepting of shortened race especially given the nature of this event. Maybe this is a great idea and will work out just fine. Don't know.
    Dave,

    Obviously I cannot guarantee there will be no FCY, but I ALSO cannot guarantee it won't pour down rain (or even snow!) that weekend either. What I CAN guarantee is that you'll get 35 minutes of track time even if you don't get 20 laps in.

    2009 Race times (green to checker, all races went 20 laps):
    Group 1 - ASM/SSM - 34:35 (52 cars)
    Group 2 - ITB/ITC/ITT - 35:50 (21 cars)
    Group 3 - ITR/ITS - 33:02 (20 cars)
    Group 4 - ITA/IT7 - 34:43 (25 cars)
    Group 5 - GTA/SPO - 29:07 (29 cars)
    Group 6 - Wings & Things - 27:44 (26 cars)
    Group 7 - STO, ITO, SPU, etc. - 30:37 (12 cars)
    Group 8 - CF, F6, FST - 31:37 (14 cars)

    Again, we finished before dark in 2008 (with nine groups) even with a massive clean up after the Big Noise race. And in 2010 we'll have the extra hour of daylight on Saturday.

    Is there a risk? Certainly. Am I requiring everything to go perfectly to make this happen? Not by a long shot.
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    Butch, I think that is a great idea....NOW please see if someone can cover the race and do a decent article in the magazine. (Notice..no names mentioned) Chuck
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    From a spectator point of view (unless my life changes asap) this news doesn't seem like bad news. The more cars on the track the better.

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    What about timed races rather laps? This is one thing I loved about our TeamDI PRO-IT races up here. Afterall we are all equally paying for the track time not the track laps...

    Not going to be their but it was an idea,
    Stephen

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    Fair enough Butch. I personally enjoy having more cars on track so that wasn't a concern for me. What you've said makes sense. Thanks for the reply and info.
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