April Fastrack

[frnkhous]

We're 3 full years into ITR competition. We just want to follow up and make sure that the weights are consistent and that there are no glaring errors.

The ITAC is still trying to get caught up on letters, but we'll get to this.

Umm I'm willing to guess there could be some glaring errors... but I'm not sure how anybody thinks they are going to find them any easier now than they could have 3 years ago, or when a new car was classed. You certainly can't tell anything by ontrack performance yet(New CRB/ITAC position)... I'm 99% sure an RX-8 can be made to handle better than a second gen rx-7 of similar weight, I know for sure it makes about 30 more whp in IT trim and can/and is allowed to in ITR fit a bigger wheel and tire than ITS... yet huffmaster went faster than anyone in IT at the arrc. You have no DATA to go by. Period.(unless someone has offered up dyno sheets for multiple similar builds showing something doesn't make expected power) Not to mention that nobody has yet tried to build a serious front wheel drive car and see how it stacks up at all(they could all be off)

Only thing I can think of is that the v6 mustang is probably not going to be able to make weight... maybe not within 50lbs with a 180lbs driver. However, several more are being built I believe so it would seem foolish to change those cars before more people come to that conclusion.

[JoshS]

Umm I'm willing to guess there could be some glaring errors... but I'm not sure how anybody thinks they are going to find them any easier now than they could have 3 years ago, or when a new car was classed.

Well, for example, it appears that the Mitsu 3000GT/Dodge Stealth didn't get any sort of break for FWD, although it should have. Just want to do a complete audit.

[Knestis]

Well, for example, it appears that the Mitsu 3000GT/Dodge Stealth didn't get any sort of break for FWD, although it should have. Just want to do a complete audit.

So it sounds like "error" as in, not to the process that should have been used when they were initially listed...

K

[GKR_17]

Not to mention that nobody has yet tried to build a serious front wheel drive car and see how it stacks up at all(they could all be off)

Paul Dubinski and Mark Masters have their "Part Time" Acura RSX moving very well now. I've heard of another in Ohio, but haven't seen it.

[mossaidis]

use the formula Daniel-san.... use the formula...

[lateapex911]

Paul Dubinski and Mark Masters have their "Part Time" Acura RSX moving very well now. I've heard of another in Ohio, but haven't seen it.

I think I met those guys at VIR last fall?. NICE guys. SWEET looking car!

[JeffYoung]

That's the one. It is a nice car, and nice guys.

I think I met those guys at VIR last fall?. NICE guys. SWEET looking car!

[GKR_17]

I think I met those guys at VIR last fall?. NICE guys. SWEET looking car!

They found somewhere near four seconds at VIR since last season. Quite impressive.

[JeffYoung]

I think that is right -- they ran a 2:12 or something?

Grafton, how fast has your 944S2 gone? I don't think Ricky has been under 2:15 yet, although I know he is still doing a lot of development work. Didn't Skeen get a ITR 325 in the 11s?

[GKR_17]

Our best at VIR is a 2'12.5. Ben hit a 2'12.7 at the March race, while Mark got the Acrua to 2'13.3. Mike Skeen ran a 2'10 in Moorefield's E36 BMW last year in qualifying (2'11.2 is his true, but not yet recorded lap record). We all have a lot of improvement to go it seems.

[Super Swift]

Skeen is my hero! He passed me in the up hill esses on that 2:10 lap.

I'd love to run against him there again: Makes me feel all inadequate. Maybe one day I'll be cool like him. (We have found some time since we raced him but only about half of what we need.)

(On a side note I think ITR is perfect except for one Mazda car that needs weight. )

Ben Robertson

[Ron Earp]

Only thing I can think of is that the v6 mustang is probably not going to be able to make weight... maybe not within 50lbs with a 180lbs driver. However, several more are being built I believe so it would seem foolish to change those cars before more people come to that conclusion.

The car was run through the process and a weight comes out. At that point a decision is made to possibly drop it a class at a higher weight, however, for that car, and a few others in that 190hp range, the S weight is just too high compared to other cars in the class and the mechnical aspects of the car in question. 26XX in R or around 3000+ in S, a bit of a tweener.

I weigh 175 lbs and if I can get my Mustang to be within 50lbs of weight I'll be plenty happy. I need to lose 20 lbs anyhow, that'd make it even closer!