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  1. #1
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    Default Black Choppers What What

    Might have something to do with it being the only car with an assumed negative power gain when built to IT spec. Or maybe that nasty gear box that is supposedly to weak to run a single race. Or it might be I don't like how it turned the "process" political.

    Jake I know I lost the fight with that car, but I don't plan on stopping my complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Swift View Post
    Might have something to do with it being the only car with an assumed negative power gain when built to IT spec. Or maybe that nasty gear box that is supposedly to weak to run a single race. Or it might be I don't like how it turned the "process" political.

    Jake I know I lost the fight with that car, but I don't plan on stopping my complaining.
    Ben,

    Complaining is never a problem but it would be great if you used some facts to back up your statements. Using LOADS of data from GAC to Pro Formula Mazda, 215whp potential was used. That is a POSITIVE power adder of 10%.

    The Process didn't turn political at all. The RX-8, like many other cars were treated the same. Take a step back and admit to yourself that it's the facts.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    What Andy said - again. The ITAC busted its collective ass on that decision because we KNEW it was going to be examined under an electron microscope. It's squeaky clean.

    K

    PS to Andy - Did you get your ITAC severance check from "M" yet? Mine came just in time to pay off the house last month.

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    Ben to further what Andy said, not only did we have a bunch of data, but the data was from NON interested parties, AND it was very consistent. On top of that, we used the higher extremes of that data (an actual diservice to the car). No allowance was given for the transmission that is reported to be suspect.

    Further, that evidence was brought in, and vetted by the entire ITAC, and then voted on. I have the voting records, person by person. To me, that one car was perhaps the apogee of the Process, and now that the CRB has pushed back, we may never see a weight so properly processed again.

    It's a high water mark for the IT car classification system, if you ask me.

    Too bad that System has been abandoned.

    Complain if you want Ben, but saying it has a negative power factor is either a joke lacking a smiley, or sour grapes and a misrepresentation...you KNOW it didn't get a negative factor.
    Jake Gulick


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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    No allowance was given for the transmission that is reported to be suspect.
    There is one of my major complaints on this car. The transmission should have been taken into account. The ratios are phenomenal in that box, and it negates the 'low torque' (100lb deduction) of this motor.

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