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    Default Future automotive technology in IT

    The whole Toyota recall situation has me wondering again what Showroom Stock, and eventually IT, is gonna look like in the not-too-distant future. The following is just a rant.

    Imagine it's 2025, and you're flying down the longest straight at your favorite racetrack. You're hauling ass in your 2018 Fiat Viper ITX. Suddenly, the onboard computer begins freaking out for unknown reasons. The throttle becomes stuck and you apply the brakes. However, ABS-related issues have also surfaced, because, 30-odd years after the introduction of computer-assistive braking, engineers still can't come up with a fail-proof system. You then try to slow the car by downshifting, but as you pull back on your downshift paddle, there is no response from your computer-controlled double-clutch tranny. So there you are, approaching a slow right-hander at over 145 mph, with your electricals on meltdown. You try to save the situation by driving diagonally across the wide gravel on the outside of the turn, only the car won't oblige because the steer-by-wire has gone to hell. You crash, but are damn lucky to escape with a few bumps/bruises. However, your car is complete junk, thanks to all the fancy on-board electrical wizardry. You cuss and wish you'd never gotten rid of your late-90s ITR Camaro, the one that had MECHANICAL systems.

    Okay, now. If I'm still racing well into the next decade, and there's a reasonable chance I'll still be at it because I'm relatively young, I won't be doing it in a car that has a critical automotive system overly controlled/interferred by a computer. And I'd be reluctant to race in a class that is comprised mostly of machinery that is everything-by-wire.

    There. I've gotten it off my chest. I now declare this riot open. Feel free to have at it.
    Last edited by RedMisted; 02-11-2010 at 08:31 AM.
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    We're not all as failure-prone as Toyota...

    I think the biggest area for concern with such electronics in Club Racing will be the changes to the cars, not limited to the opportunity for builders to screw things up...
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    Chris - thats why I love my car. Even though its 20 years old, the only "computer" on the car is the programmed fuel injection. Everything else is mechanical. And its so easy to work on. No sensors, 10 million wires running here and there, etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ITA_honda View Post
    Chris - thats why I love my car. Even though its 20 years old, the only "computer" on the car is the programmed fuel injection. Everything else is mechanical. And its so easy to work on. No sensors, 10 million wires running here and there, etc etc.
    LOL... mine's 30 years old, and has no computers (other than those I've added - the data system and video)!
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    I gust put a Computer in my 28 year old car--The wideband a/f gusge sytem has a "processor" in it.

    As to the future...we'll deal with it!

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    Chris-

    while you are sliding off the track I will be coasting through the turn after I simply hit the kill switch and shut the car off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSTPerformance View Post
    Chris-

    while you are sliding off the track I will be coasting through the turn after I simply hit the kill switch and shut the car off...

    Raymond
    How would you be coasting in the turn, in our hypothetical example, if you've got no steering? Remember the steering would no longer have a column!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMisted View Post
    How would you be coasting in the turn, in our hypothetical example, if you've got no steering? Remember the steering would no longer have a column!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMisted View Post
    How would you be coasting in the turn, in our hypothetical example, if you've got no steering? Remember the steering would no longer have a column!
    Not to worry, your "FIA-approved" ejection seat is still mechanical of course.
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    Don't worry by then you'll either be driving the car via a full motion simulator and you won't feel a thing when it hits, either that or it'll be your Surrogate, and you'll really be sitting at home in a special bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titanium View Post
    Not to worry, your "FIA-approved" ejection seat is still mechanical of course.
    Manufactured by Martin-Baker no doubt... on second thought you'd better not hit the "silk" unless you want to get about an inch shorter
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