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    Said differently- use whatever is around you. in SFR tin tops, its mostly AIM data units, NE seesm to be DL-1.
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    If the title of this thread was 'data aquisition' instead of DL-1, I would offer the Race-Keeper data and Video acquisition system. Three axis accelerometer, GPS based, up to 4 camera inputs, 8 analog inputs, wireless dash display, 3D video capability and 15 minute installation without drilling holes.

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    I am in the northeast and have had an AIM Pista for three years and have yet to find anyone to share data to compare. If I had the resources I would buy the DL1 as everyone I talk to is running it!
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    I wonder how useful having the same system as everyone else is when no one has the same car as you do? Also, since the region owns one of the tracks we race there over 50% of our season, but this track is multi-configurable. So, when you get data you'd have to ask was that 13 cw, 13A cw, 13 ccw, or 13A ccw, or was that 14.... 15.... 16.... or 18.... so getting multiple sets of data for the same configuration can be problematic. Kind of reminds me of the time Greg was asking for data for Rusty's track in Iowa. Did you ever get any data for that track Greg?
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    WHile he doesn't have the exact same car as everyone else, he's got the same motor as others, and he races on the same track. TONS of DL1 files on LRP.

    I'd get a DL1 from Jeremy if I were buying new here in the NE. Heck, he's been helpful to me, an early adopter AIM guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z3_GoCar View Post
    I wonder how useful having the same system as everyone else is when no one has the same car as you do?
    It's still very, very helpful, especially when looking at someone faster.

    Dan, one thing to consider if buying one and sharing is that you guys will be on track at the same time. Used ones pop up once in awhile. You might even check in with Jeremy in case someone is upgrading.
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    Good info, Thanks
    I will check this all out as a DA system seems to be a key area we have not yet become involved with.
    Although our cars are not used much the engine and suspension system is all Mazada so we can compare somewhat to others.
    Dan Deyo
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    +1 to the "use what others in your class use".

    I have a DL1. While Traqmate seems to be prevalent in the SE, some very fast drivers with DL1 have shared data with me and its made me faster. I've also made myself faster with my own data. I almost wouldn't bother going on track without it. (edit: I mean in a test day. I don't think I've even looked down at my display during a hard race, but would probably rather not put wear and tear on the car on a test session without data, as I couldn't have quantitative evidence on what the changes to the car/driving did)

    If I was in SM, I'd have Traqmate as the majority of SM people I've seen use Traqmate.

    The other advantage of the DL1 is the ability to add the Dash2 system into your car, eliminating your gauges and all that crap in favor for a digital display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z3_GoCar View Post
    I wonder how useful having the same system as everyone else is when no one has the same car as you do?
    Very. A data acq device is more than just something to spit out hard numbers for comparison, it's much more useful as a way to compare driving techniques and styles. Give me two files, one from an ITC car/driver and one from an ITR, and I'll make both drivers faster.
    Did you ever get any data for [Iowa] Greg?
    I did, but that situation was different: what I was looking for there was just a single lap so I could place track markers for the .LAP file for the DASH-2. That way the drivers had lap and sector times in the car during the first practice session... - GA

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