National Class

[LIRacer]

Why is IT not a national class when AS which is IT for V8s (IMHO) is?

[Greg Amy]

Holy ker-rist...



(No personal offense, but this ain't the right time for this...use Google for now...)

[erlrich]

Why is IT not a national class when AS which is IT for V8s (IMHO) is?

Short version Bruce; IT was intended from its inception to forever be a regional-only class.

What Greg is referring to is the fact that this topic has come up many, many times in the past, has been an extremely contentious issue every time, and (some suspect) MAY be ONE of the issues underlying the current CRB-ITAC fiasco. Definitely do some investigating, I'm certain you'll understand.

[LIRacer]

Ok, i'll look in to it, Thanks.

[RedMisted]

Why is IT not a national class when AS which is IT for V8s (IMHO) is?

AS is really not "IT for V8s." The preparation rules for an ITR V8-powered Mustang differ from those for an AS Mustang. But you're forgiven because on the face of things, A Sedan DOES look like an IT class.

[StephF]

Weeellll...my understanding is that with STU coming to be, IT can be run as a national.

[924Guy]

Weeellll...my understanding is that with STU coming to be, IT can be run as a national.

If your car's not too old.

Not exactly a rubber-stamp entry to the world of Nationals...

[StephF]

But an entry just the same for a lot of folks.

OP, slightly longer Cliffs notes version: there was an endless series of discussion about this very thing, mosty centering around how much $$$ it would cost to be competitve at a Nat'l level, the spirit in which the class was created, and so forth.

Bottom line, while expensive, it's no where near as expensive as it would be if we all went nat'l. Most people seem to want it to stay this way. STU will allow some folks to run nationals. And if anyone wants to be a National-only racer, well you will need to go back to the drawing board and choose a national eligible class and a car for that class.

As you may have gathered, there is an underlying political issue going on here as well, but I'll leave that to the ones who know the ins and outs of it all, because frankly, I can no longer keep up with who/what/when/where/why around here. We have so many boards, it's just plain confusing.

IT is fun the way it is. And we have enough enduro, Pro-it, restricted regionals, etc that I for one don't feel like I'm missing anything by not running nationals. Just my opinion...

[shwah]

Updated a few key points.

But an entry just the same for a lot of folks.

OP, slightly longer Cliffs notes version: there was an endless series of discussion about this very thing, mosty centering around how much $$$ it would cost to be competitve at a Nat'l level compared to competitive in a lowly subscribed division, while likely being the same $$$ it is today in areas with strong competition, the spirit in which the class was created, and so forth.

Bottom line, while expensive, it's no where near as expensive as it would be if we all raced in an area with very competitive IT fields, or went nat'l. Some people seem to want it to stay this way. STU will allow some folks to run nationals uncompetitively. And if anyone wants to be a National-only racer, well you will need to go back to the drawing board and choose a national eligible class and a car for that class.

As you may have gathered, there is an underlying political issue going on here as well, and my post represented one of those political positions.

IT is fun the way it is. And we have enough enduro, Pro-it, restricted regionals, etc that I for one don't feel like I'm missing anything by not running nationals. Just my opinion...

I agree that IT is fine the way it is. I also think it would be better if we had an opportunity to be a national class. A lot of the arguments against this were centered around the added cost (read - the requirement to fully prep a car to the rules) to compete at a national level. Many people do that now. Many others don't have to and are able to finish well.

[Ron Earp]

Why is IT not a national class when AS which is IT for V8s (IMHO) is?

AS is FAR from being an IT-like class. When we were working on classing V8 Pont cars in ITR this misconception that "AS was already IT for V8s" came up more than a few times. Fortunately a cursory examination of the rules puts that notion to rest.