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Andy - we all appreciate the hard work and leadership. When it's time- it's time...
(Dammit - now the man won't be so friggin distracted he's only going to get faster....:-)
Greg - hit the nail on the head - no gold trinket in that pile...this site is a classier place
BenSpeed
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Andy - Thanks for all you did and do. You are a class act and we are better for that.
Thanks,
Darrell Anthony
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What Greg A. said
k
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All I can say is, from what I know about Andy this is a really bad sign. Kirk & Scott weren't so much the shockers, but if they frustrated Andy to the point that he tossed the towel that really says a lot - and none of it good.
I've pretty much given up on the current CRB and BoD - until we get some fresh blood in both places things aren't going to change. I would suggest that's where we focus our efforts, in getting the word out for the upcoming Board election, and trying to get some new faces in the chairs. FWIW, 3 of the 4 Board members up for re-election this year (Wannarka, Sheridan, Creighton) were among the 7 who recently voted to ignore the wishes of the membership, and their own CRB, in casting their votes for the H&N requirement; and the fourth (Noble) abstained from voting on the issue. I know that is only one issue, but that gets each of those candidates a huge check in the minus column from where I stand.
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Earl R.
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Giles, too?!?Originally Posted by erlrich
"Boom, baby!"
Who's next...?
Administrator
And, via email, I get the answer to that last question.
Sigh...
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For some reason the images of large rodents and ships sinking keep popping into my head....
Earl R.
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That's a huge loss for the IT community. Andy, sorry to see you go but can understand your concerns and frustation.
Demetrius Mossaidis aka 'Mickey' #12 ITA NESCCA
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Yup.
When loose cannons like Giles and I go away, it's arguably because we're busted rather than the system. But the impact of Andy's loss cannot be overstated.
K
Senior Member
Straight answer?
Me.
I sent my resignation letter in today. Last nights con call sealed the deal. The CRB was clear in their direction, and it's not what the members have told me they want. I work for the member, not against him.
Andy was lucky not to be on the call.
For those of you counting, in the past 3(?) months we have lost: Kirk Knestis..a guy with a PHD in policy. The ITAC is ALL about policy. Seemed like a perfect match. And Scott Giles. Honda expert and IT big picture guy extraordinaire. Andy Betterncourt: Great tightrope walker, and explainer of things unexplanable. Got the "big picture". And now me: All of us left, I think it's safe to say, not because we were too big for our britches, but because we believe that the CRB isn't in tune with our bosses, the members.
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Andy, Jake, many thanks for all the hard work.....
Not sure where I stand yet, don't want to make a too swift decision.
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Wow - if this doesn't send a message what does?
BenSpeed
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BigSpeed Racing
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2014 NE Division ITR Champion
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Jake, thanks for all the work on behalf of us ITers. Again, I am sorry to another respected member resign but it is what it is. All of you fellows did a great job and I think IT is in a much better place due to your labors.
Now, focus on racing and enjoy IT for as long as you can before the CRB takes it some place where we all don't want it to go. All this really makes me consider if I want to build that next IT car or not. Maybe the Z is the end of my IT career.
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I'm in the same position as Jeff. I will not make any swift decisions. But I will state that I think that things aren't NEARLY as broken as they have been portrayed, and that IT is by no means on a downhill slope.
It is much better due to the contributions of those who have left recently, mostly in the aspect of the process around the math. The math itself, which is causing a lot of angst, is just a small part of the story and there's plenty of room to come together on this.
Josh Sirota
ITR '99 BMW Z3 Coupe
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Andy B's resignation from ITAC is a real loss for Club Racing.
He and I have tangled over car weights in the past.
I am not the easiest person to convince, but Andy was always patient and entirely
diligent in the way he presented the procedures. Thank you Andy.
If ITAC efforts have just worn Andy out, I am not surprised.
My grumps and queries must have contributed.
I believe that the classification process is no longer working.
Not for lack of effort from ITAC and similar groups that hear from the car people.
These groups pass info, ideas and requests up to CRB and to BoD.
But somehow the decisions made high up don't seem to support the efforts of ITAC et cet.
No wonder Andy Bettencourt has resigned. Our Loss
When will SCCA create a classification process that is transparent , functional and easy to use??
Seems we are far from that.
Bill Miskoe
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