What class? 150hp, fwd, mac strut/irs, 3230 curb weight?

[cjb25hs]

SSC Mazda3s can't get under 2900 legally. There's no way that car could have gotten anywhere near its ITS process weight. So it's classed in ITA lighter than they race in SSC.

Of course that is still with full interior and a/c. You gut it remove all sound deadening, stock exhaust, rear parking brakes and cables and ditch the a/c. I would guess that would knock off at least 400lbs.

[JoshS]

Of course that is still with full interior and a/c. You gut it remove all sound deadening, stock exhaust, rear parking brakes and cables and ditch the a/c. I would guess that would knock off at least 400lbs.

I admit that I don't know for sure, but I REALLY doubt that stuff ads up to anywhere near 400 lbs. And don't forget that the SSC cars already have some of that stuff removed. Gutted front doors, no A/C, no airbags, no radio/speakers, no muffler, driver's side race seat, etc.

[Bill Miller]

Like Josh, I don't know the exact number either, but I'd be surprised, even if you included all the stuff that you're allowed to remove in SS, that you'd get 400# worth of stuff out of the car. Maybe, but I don't think so. I know heated leather seats are heavy, and door glass / power window regs are heavy, but 400# is a LOT of weight.

[shwah]

Again - don't get too caught up in that 2665 number. There is a very real chance that these should be classed as 170hp motors. I'll keep digging on that and find out, but so far, I am told there were no hardware changes, maybe a software change, but maybe no change but updating the brochures to show the actual power.

So out of curiosity, what weight at 170hp in ITA or ITS?

[JamesB]

Chris - I found the same thing. Early 2.5 motors had much more gains from cat back and chip tuning then the new 170 motors.

[Andy Bettencourt]

So out of curiosity, what weight at 170hp in ITA or ITS?

~ About: assuming struts

2605 in ITS
3020 in ITA

[JamesB]

same chasis, higher HP rating on later model 2.5L NA motors.

[cjb25hs]

I admit that I don't know for sure, but I REALLY doubt that stuff ads up to anywhere near 400 lbs. And don't forget that the SSC cars already have some of that stuff removed. Gutted front doors, no A/C, no airbags, no radio/speakers, no muffler, driver's side race seat, etc.

I guess I forgot to think that completely thru. Yes if you took the door panels, airbags and a/c into the equation, it's probably closer to 250# of course I am looking at low fuel level as well.

[shwah]

~ about: assuming struts

2605 in ITS
3020 in ITA

front struts, rear multi link

[Charlie Broring]

I'll take the heavy ITA car on a long track, and the light ITS configuration on a short twisty track.

[shwah]

The rabbit appears to be a few hundred pounds lighter, but I wonder if you really could get 580# out of a car in an IT build. Is there anything that heavy in A?

[Marcus Miller]

The rabbit appears to be a few hundred pounds lighter, but I wonder if you really could get 580# out of a car in an IT build. Is there anything that heavy in A?

79 Mustang V6 - 3000
79-81 Toyota Celica Supra 2930


Man some of these weights are f`ed up.

[shwah]

Talking to Aaron about his experience with the T3 gti (same chassis) and he thinks it could get close to the S weight, based on a lot of heavy interior/window regulator and sound deadening components - compared to his Golf 3 ITB car.