Qualifying sessions or qualifying races?

[Dave Zaslow]

Qual > Race > Race has also been used at the July Sprints at WGI with success. I believe second race is gridded by fastest 1st race lap.

Good format.

DZ

[joeg]

Doesn't really matter much, but for the "Double in a Day" we used at Nelson this year it was a random drawing at registration for first qualifying race, the results thereof setting the grid for the first "race" and the results of the "first" race set the grid for the "Second" race.

Worked well and was a ton of fun!

[Andy Bettencourt]

The most popular weekends up here are doubles/triples that look like this:

Sat AM qual
Sat PM race
Sun AM qual race (grid based on Sat PM fast lap)
Sun PM race (grid based on finish position from Sun AM race)

Schools, test days and most HPDE clubs provide much better value for 'track time'. Race weekends should maximize RACING.

Inverted grids do not reward the fast drivers (isn't that what this is about?) and puts slower drivers in a situation that they don't need to be in so early in the race.

[iambhooper]

The most popular weekends up here are doubles/triples that look like this:

Sat AM qual
Sat PM race
Sun AM qual race (grid based on Sat PM fast lap)
Sun PM race (grid based on finish position from Sun AM race)

Ok, this makes sense. But it really only seems to work on Double races. Does the qualifying race count as a seperate sanction? So that would be 3 sanctions in 1 weekend?

As for advancing late in the race... i'm thi opposite. I tend to have better finish's than I do starts. 10 or 15 min of track time is a waste of my time.

hoop

[billf]

From lambhooper:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt
The most popular weekends up here are doubles/triples that look like this:

Sat AM qual
Sat PM race
Sun AM qual race (grid based on Sat PM fast lap)
Sun PM race (grid based on finish position from Sun AM race)

Ok, this makes sense. But it really only seems to work on Double races. Does the qualifying race count as a seperate sanction? So that would be 3 sanctions in 1 weekend?

No, one sanction for the whole weekend with the format I stated for WNY. "Sanction" covers the event, not the number of races held during the event.

Incidentally, I mispoke when I listed a practice session. I should have stated Practice/Qualifying session.

Good racing.

Bill

[dickita15]

Ok, this makes sense. But it really only seems to work on Double races. Does the qualifying race count as a seperate sanction? So that would be 3 sanctions in 1 weekend?

hoop

We (NER) have used both one or two sanctions for this type of triple. Two sanctions cost the region more but count as two races for license purposes so it is a trade off.
At times the “triples” have given three set of points for one series (NERRC) but only the two PM races count for another series (NARRC).

[RacerBill]

We (NER) have used both one or two sanctions for this type of triple. Two sanctions cost the region more but count as two races for license purposes so it is a trade off.
At times the “triples” have given three set of points for one series (NERRC) but only the two PM races count for another series (NARRC).

The IT Spec*Tacular and the OVR Double Championship races at Mid-Ohio use the double sanction option. Therefore the race on Saturday, and one of the races on Sunday can count towards you license.

[mtownneon]

OK, let me ask this: What is everyone's thoughts on blind draw inversion of grids?