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    Default Qualifying sessions or qualifying races?

    Which would you like to see?

    Std qualifying sessions or qualifying races?

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    Dave Dusterberg
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    I like the I.T. Fest setup. Qualify Saturday morning, fastest lap in Saturday's race will be your starting position for Sunday mornings qualifying race, and the finishing order of the qualifying race is the starting position Sunday's race.
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    NER went to that format on when we got a memorial day date a couple of years ago. It quickly became our biggest event.
    This year every regional will have one qualifying session and then race all other session of the weekend.
    dick patullo
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    Yes, love the one practice, three race format (two sanctions). The Sunday morning race was my 4th race to keep my license without a waiver one year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dickita15 View Post
    ...This year every [NER]regional will have one qualifying session and then race all other session of the weekend.

    yeah!!!! thanks Dick and Jerry and anyone else, that rocks!

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    Glenn Lawton
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    I've never been in a qualifying race... how do they decide on the starting grid for a qualifier?

    I would be concerned about the possibiity of other drivers making bonehead race moves during the quilifier and causing accidents.. just to get a better spot on the grid. (example would be the ITB Volvo at VIR that had "brake problems", yet bonzaid 1, t-boneing an ITA car.

    I would rather have a 25 or 30 min qualifier, as opposed to having a 10-15 min practiece and 10-15 min qualifier.
    hoop
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    To me, 25 - 30 minutes for qualifying is a waste of time. Get out there and get the job done, then begin racing! I'd prefer a short qualifying then as many races as possible and don't care if it has to be called a qual race or a standard race for whatever reasons.
    Dave Gran
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    Definitely give me races - quali sessions are a waste of time and rubber!
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    Western New York Region has traditionally used the Qualifying session, then a Qualifying Race (Saturday) format, then used the finishing results of Saturday's shorter race as Grid positions for Sunday's grand finale, a longer race.

    Depending on track time scheduling, the Saturday races were either ten or fifteen laps, and Sunday's was twenty.

    If the competitor was unable to race on Sunday (mechanical, illness, etc), we were able to allow points for the Saturday race, so the weekend was not a total loss.

    It was always well received, and has been used for, maybe, fifteen years or so.

    Bill
    Bill Frieder
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    Dispense with "practice". Make first session a combined "practice / qualify", then race ("qualifying race", "race", "post-race race", ad infinitum).

    Test days are for practice. Race days are for racing.

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    It sounds like I'm in the minority, but here is what I like:
    - I like the first session of a weekend to be practice (work out cobwebs, learn tracks, learn competitors, etc.)
    - I like at least 1 classic qualifying session, fast time wins.
    - After that, I would like multiple races. I would not like grid sports to be determined by finishing position, but rather fast lap as several have suggested.
    - Generally I would like more shorter duration races (rather than less longer races). I find that a great majority of the time I do not gain or lose any positions in the last 5 laps or so (maybe 2-3 for big tracks like RA), so I would prefer re-gridding and going at it again.
    Jared Cromas
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