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    Default Enduro length question?

    What do you think the shortest time a race should be to be considered an endurance race?
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    I am fine with the 90 minute races that are run in SEDiv. 3 Hours are my favorite. A 500 mile professional race is an endurance race. Make no mistake about it. Its also about the max that a solo amateur and a friend can do.

    After that you get into needing a full crew and a bigger budget.


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    Bah! The ARRC 3-hour should be one driver, no stops. And it WOULD be for our Golf if it weren't for the silly rule requiring two long spells sitting still.

    6 hours is the shortest duration that I think of as an enduro.

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    One "B-U" (bladder unit).

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    Having run them all, I'm with Kirk. Anything less than 6 hours doesn't really require a TEAM effort. Enduros aren't about one or two hero drivers but about a team working on car preparation, strategy and execution.
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    I'm with Kirk and Chuck. 6 hours+.
    A 3 hour 'enduro' is still a sprint race in how we prepare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRW View Post
    One "B-U" (bladder unit).

    instead, all we really need is SFI approval of this:

    http://www.egeneralmedical.com/mck-14001914.html

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    Grand AM ST and GT classes (sedan cars similar to IT - not prototypes) run two to three hour sprint races as the norm. No mandatory time for pit stops but usually with two drivers. They also run a 6-hour Enduro at the end of the season at VIR for those cars. Just sayin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawtonglenn View Post
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    instead, all we really need is SFI approval of this:

    http://www.egeneralmedical.com/mck-14001914.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawtonglenn View Post
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    instead, all we really need is SFI approval of this:

    http://www.egeneralmedical.com/mck-14001914.html

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    I believe its not an enduro if some cars can complete it without having a pitstop. Running 90 to 180 minutes without a stop is just a long sprint race.

    The benefit of having pit stops (even if there is no fueling or tire changes) is that it allows multiple drivers to help pay the bills and gives a lot of guys the taste of what endurance racing is about. The more drivers we have, the more endurance racers in our pool. I thought it was great that the ARRC 3 hour had two manditory stops because it let me put 3 guys in our car. Also, it encouraged guys to compete with their sprint cars as it didn't penalize a team who wasn't running a giant cell. The result is there were a lot of guys at ARRC who now can say they have done an endurance race. Perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Roth View Post
    I believe its not an enduro if some cars can complete it without having a pitstop. Running 90 to 180 minutes without a stop is just a long sprint race.

    The benefit of having pit stops (even if there is no fueling or tire changes) is that it allows multiple drivers to help pay the bills and gives a lot of guys the taste of what endurance racing is about. The more drivers we have, the more endurance racers in our pool. I thought it was great that the ARRC 3 hour had two manditory stops because it let me put 3 guys in our car. Also, it encouraged guys to compete with their sprint cars as it didn't penalize a team who wasn't running a giant cell. The result is there were a lot of guys at ARRC who now can say they have done an endurance race. Perfect.
    The ARRC 3 hour not an enduro is my favorite race of the season. I reject the idea of the "long sprint race". Sprint racers run 30-40 minute races. A 90 minute is more than twice the lenth of what a sprint racer runs. The Indy 500 and NASCAR races run 3 hours. They are considered endurance races.


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