STU in 2010 runoffs

[Rabbit07]

Update:

Ray Huffmaster, Kolin Aspegren, and Myself all ran and finished both of the races at Sebring in STU. Now we just need to complete the Double at VIR and Runoffs here we come!

[disquek]

"buh buh buh buy .... Bushwood ..."

I think that your idea to run a mini IT fest in STU at the runoffs is awesome. The more the merrier. I think that STU will be undersubscribed anyway. Plus it's a bastard class shoved down the throat of national racing without member input.

Just to put some numbers around STU, there was a fairly fast (I assume) STU at the Watkins Glen national this year. Phil Parlato ran a 2:09.166.

IT lap records at WGI:
ITA 2:17.900
ITB 2:22.838
ITC 2:28.228
ITE 2:03.147
ITR 2:14.049
ITS 2:14.155

So if Phil's STU is a good guideline, 120% of his time at WGI is a 2:34.99. Looks easy based on the lap records above.

IMHO, in the north east WGI is likely the best comparison to RA.

-Kyle

PS: There has been talk (forum talk) of lowering the cutoff to 110%.

[Andy Bettencourt]

"buh buh buh buy .... Bushwood ..."

I think that your idea to run a mini IT fest in STU at the runoffs is awesome. The more the merrier. I think that STU will be undersubscribed anyway. Plus it's a bastard class shoved down the throat of national racing without member input.

Just to put some numbers around STU, there was a fairly fast (I assume) STU at the Watkins Glen national this year. Phil Parlato ran a 2:09.166.

IT lap records at WGI:
ITA 2:17.900
ITB 2:22.838
ITC 2:28.228
ITE 2:03.147
ITR 2:14.049
ITS 2:14.155

So if Phil's STU is a good guideline, 120% of his time at WGI is a 2:34.99. Looks easy based on the lap records above.

IMHO, in the north east WGI is likely the best comparison to RA.

-Kyle

PS: There has been talk (forum talk) of lowering the cutoff to 110%.

What a great reference to Caddy Shack. It's perfect! I know the ITA record is about a second lower and I think the ITB record fell - but no matter - they are light years behind a built STU car. As it should be. It's all about crashing the pool.

Yes, STU cars will be old SWC cars at the front end with the proper mods.

[gran racing]

I think that B record still stands at least till next year.

Where can one find out more about the runoffs event in terms of how it's run? Meaning is it a week long event of can it be made into a few days like the ARRC? If a class becomes over subscribed, I'd imagine they'd just eliminate the slowest qualifiers (ITB cars probably)?

[Greg Amy]

We're trying to talk Famous Phil into making the trek, so he can be a good baseline.

Where can one find out more about the runoffs event in terms of how it's run? Meaning is it a week long event of can it be made into a few days like the ARRC?

If it's anything like it was in the early 90's - thus take this post with a big grain of salt - Then it's a Monday test day, Tue/Wed/Thurs qualifying sessions (one per day) then Fri/Sat/Sun individual races.

In other words, a lot of sitting around. Just pretend it's an expensive multi-day autocross.

[Rabbit07]

If it's anything like it was in the early 90's - thus take this post with a big grain of salt - Then it's a Monday test day, Tue/Wed/Thurs qualifying sessions (one per day) then Fri/Sat/Sun individual races.

In other words, a lot of sitting around.

Greg,

You are correct in the format, however I have never spent much time sitting around at the RunOffs. There always seems to be something to do to some race car, or the tow vehicle when your wife locks the keys in it in the Paddock

[benspeed]

I think Phil's car is a solid representation of a real STU car. Former WC BMW - really well built, well driven. That's the stuff IT cars will struggle to beat.

Hope Phil will make it out. I figure I'll be racing him several times this year in STU - we'll see what the ITR car can do with a fresh head on it against the real STU guys. (Heck, I want to race the Flatout S2000 in ITR and STU!)

[wdether]

We're trying to talk Famous Phil into making the trek, so he can be a good baseline.


If it's anything like it was in the early 90's - thus take this post with a big grain of salt - Then it's a Monday test day, Tue/Wed/Thurs qualifying sessions (one per day) then Fri/Sat/Sun individual races.

In other words, a lot of sitting around. Just pretend it's an expensive multi-day autocross.

From what I have heard/seen, there will be qualifying Monday through Thursday, and racing on Friday/Saturday/Sunday. It looks like three qualifying sessions in the four days. Not sure how qualifying will be organized, whether classes run by themselves or share sessions with other classes. There will be four more classes in 2010 than in 2009 with the same number of races, 24 races with 29 classes (i.e. five races will have two classes).