Ita 92 civic hatchback dx ?

[Xian]

Sounds like you've got a good starting point for the setup. You might want to pick the brains of some of the Integra (DC2) guys. I know they run considerably stiffer all the way around.

How much air are you getting under the rear tire? Is the inside rear locking up under braking all the time or is it just when you're "carrying" it in the air thru the turns?

Out of curiousity, any idea on the specs for the ASR piece (diameter, wall thickness, arm length)? I'm running a custom Speedway rear bar currently and wondered how the two compare.

Christian

[almskidd]

Sounds like you've got a good starting point for the setup. You might want to pick the brains of some of the Integra (DC2) guys. I know they run considerably stiffer all the way around.

How much air are you getting under the rear tire? Is the inside rear locking up under braking all the time or is it just when you're "carrying" it in the air thru the turns?

Out of curiousity, any idea on the specs for the ASR piece (diameter, wall thickness, arm length)? I'm running a custom Speedway rear bar currently and wondered how the two compare.

Christian

32mm OD, 3mm wall, arm is adjustable to between 6 or 7 inches and 3 or 4 inches. The bar is only slightly shorter than the distance between the two rear lower control arm mounts.

I am most likely going to move up to 600/800 or 700/900 in the future.

I was told the rear could be locking up because of the drum brakes needing adjustment, but i know only the basics about how a drum brake works so i'll just have to trust them on this one.

[Xian]

Gotcha. FWIW, yours converts to ~1.25" diameter, .120 wall bar offered by speedway. In their range that's a pretty "middle of the road" bar so if you decide to go softer or harder, you may have some options thru them. I'm running the same size bar but with a bit more adjustment options on the arm length.

I ran my CRX at 500/700 and have to say that my Civic at 700/1000 is actually smoother over bumps... IMO, the higher rates pay dividends when you start hopping curbs as the suspension bottoms out less.

Both my CRX and Civic were/are drum cars. Are you locking them up under straight line braking at all? Or is the issue only apparent when one of the rears has been in the air? If it's the latter, I wouldn't worry about it... the small puff of smoke at touchdown shouldn't hurt anything at all. Its unusual to have rear drums adjusted tightly enough that you'd have premature rear lockup... this is b/c with them adjusted "out" too far, you'll have trouble getting the drum back over them. More often, I'd find that I needed to ratchet up a click or two on the parking brake to start pre-loading them as they got hot and wore as the race went on... what rear shoes are on the car? Stock type?

[raffaelli]

My son introduced the rear of his 92 dx hatch to a tree yesterday. Need parts?

[almskidd]

Gotcha. FWIW, yours converts to ~1.25" diameter, .120 wall bar offered by speedway. In their range that's a pretty "middle of the road" bar so if you decide to go softer or harder, you may have some options thru them. I'm running the same size bar but with a bit more adjustment options on the arm length.

I ran my CRX at 500/700 and have to say that my Civic at 700/1000 is actually smoother over bumps... IMO, the higher rates pay dividends when you start hopping curbs as the suspension bottoms out less.

Both my CRX and Civic were/are drum cars. Are you locking them up under straight line braking at all? Or is the issue only apparent when one of the rears has been in the air? If it's the latter, I wouldn't worry about it... the small puff of smoke at touchdown shouldn't hurt anything at all. Its unusual to have rear drums adjusted tightly enough that you'd have premature rear lockup... this is b/c with them adjusted "out" too far, you'll have trouble getting the drum back over them. More often, I'd find that I needed to ratchet up a click or two on the parking brake to start pre-loading them as they got hot and wore as the race went on... what rear shoes are on the car? Stock type?

The rear shoes are 913's from carbotech. I don't think they were locking up when i was braking straight. So maybe it was just that I unloaded that tire enough that it would lock. I was lifting the inside rear in a number of turns. I still have a lot of work to do before the car is setup anyway so I am not going to worry about it. yet. Also they were brand new and did not have a brake in period yet. Thanks for the help though.

[Knestis]

We run stock pads on the back of the Golf and still get lock-up on the inside trail-braking into a corner. Anything with any initial bite is going to be a problem in that respect. (EDIT - on a FWD car)

K

[Xian]

What Kirk said. If you're having the rears lockup prematurely (i.e. before they "lift off" the ground on corner entry), you might want to try stock or stock equivalent pads to reduce braking torque back there.

[almskidd]

will do. thanks guys.