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    Quote Originally Posted by gran racing View Post
    Btw, what's the ITB track record?
    It was Rick P. with his alfa in the 1990s with I think a 103.3 unless of course you all beat that this weekend :eek: I turned a 103.7 in 2008 with Ken on my but in his 2002. Did anyone get in the 3s this past weekend?

    How did ken do anyway, he has been fast all year in the pro-it stuff. Congrats to Tim on a great finish amoungst the fastest of B!

    And to all the others congrats as well, I plan on finding out what events everyone is doing next year so that I can race with you more, this year was fun but only a few of us did the pro-it races, and I would love to mix it up with all of you again :026:

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenB View Post
    It was Rick P. with his alfa in the 1990s with I think a 103.3 unless of course you all beat that this weekend

    Stephen
    EVERYone was in the 3s. I *Think* Dave Gran turned a 1:03.330. And IIRC, there were a couple others under 4 as well.

    It was certainly a last minute, finger biting, hope for the weather gods to cooperate type of weekend. Unlike the June event, when it sprinkled and dried, sprinkled and dried, sprinkled..and I went out on dries...and it poured, I had the rains on and ready, with the car in the air ready to change to dries. And, with 3 laps to go in the group before me, I gambled and went out on Q tires, and while the first few laps were h-a-i-r-y, (1" off line and swisssh! off the course you went, just ask Jeff) I KNEW it was the right call.

    An interesting race, one I wish I had had time to get the videotape running...but Dave Gran was airing up my tires on grid with under a minute to go, so...no video. . This is one race I really wish I was in an ITR car, and was in 3rd place just to watch Andy and Shane battle. Man, that must've been a fun one to watch.

    I LOVE it when it rains because it shakes things up. In the A race we had guys on every tire possible: Race drys, Qualifying drys, intermediates, Hoosier wets, and Hoosier dirt stockers. Which made for wild racing. Wendell gambled on a wet setup, but it was too soft. So he cut a LF down in big bend. I was fully alongside Jeremy von Oy, who was getting held up by Wendells issues, when he came down on me at the last exit of big bend. I got on the brakes, but only could back out halfway. I took to the berm, so the contact wasn't nearly as bad as I had envisioned, no biggie at all! Jeremy came over to apologise later (Much appreciated!!), but no apology needed, one of those things. And I owe "Mad Max" an attaboy, and an apology for giving his rear bumper some love out of the left hander when I was on the throttle, and he either wasn't, or his tires were slipping. Close running, slippery track and these things happen. He was awesome in the downhill, that 240 really stuck well. And with the power he has, I couldn't get by. Oh well, it was fun trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post

    I LOVE it when it rains because it shakes things up. In the A race we had guys on every tire possible: Race drys, Qualifying drys, intermediates, Hoosier wets, and Hoosier dirt stockers. Which made for wild racing. Wendell gambled on a wet setup, but it was too soft. So he cut a LF down in big bend. I was fully alongside Jeremy von Oy, who was getting held up by Wendells issues, when he came down on me at the last exit of big bend. I got on the brakes, but only could back out halfway. I took to the berm, so the contact wasn't nearly as bad as I had envisioned, no biggie at all! Jeremy came over to apologise later (Much appreciated!!), but no apology needed, one of those things. And I owe "Mad Max" an attaboy, and an apology for giving his rear bumper some love out of the left hander when I was on the throttle, and he either wasn't, or his tires were slipping. Close running, slippery track and these things happen. He was awesome in the downhill, that 240 really stuck well. And with the power he has, I couldn't get by. Oh well, it was fun trying.
    What really pisses me off is that after a couple of laps Max and I had gapped the field and I knew he was on Dirt Stockers and would be burning them up shortly. So I was being VERY patient. (and I knew I had no chance of running down the dynamic duo) I just got a little wide in the left hander and off the dry line............ Oh well, it made it more interesting!!

    Yeah, that 240 could stick in the down hill. The one place I couldn't gain on him. He's come a long way in the last couple of years.

    And to all the ITA guys (and girls) a few years ago you could have run a 1:03 and won the race. And nobody really said much about Andy's 1:00.8 in qualifying. Holy, holy shit!!! Kessler's motivational speach after seeing that: Forget about it, you'll never come CLOSE to that! LOL

    I can't wait until next year!!!
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    Congrats Rob for the ITR championship win! You ran a good and consistent season, well deserved. I tried to make it not too easy and keep it open to the last minute, but I had nothing this weekend.
    Thanks for some good NARRC racing and CU at Pro IT finals.
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    Like I told Shane, one of these days we are gonna get to race in the dry when he doesn't spin off!

    The track was FAST on Friday. REAL fast. Don't know many who didn't grab a personal best.
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    Kessler's motivational speach after seeing that: Forget about it, you'll never come CLOSE to that! LOL
    LMAO! I can so picture that exchange. I was kinda waiting for him to tell me that I may have blown my motor but at least my wheel didn't fall off.

    There were actually a bunch of B cars in the 1:03s. I finally started increasing my mid corner speeds especially in big bend which I didn't compensate for during qualifying and spun in front of Dave. I personally was going over a 1/2 second faster than ever before. Speaking of Dave Z, he threw down a 1:03.5 during qual. - awesome. I wouldn't be overly surprised if pushed enough with a tow, and the right conditions, we see some high 1:02s. Oh yeah, that's right. Eric Curran did that last year in Paul's car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    What really pisses me off is that after a couple of laps Max and I had gapped the field and I knew he was on Dirt Stockers
    Dirt stockers?? Really? I thought I saw something else on like molded rains, but not dirt stockers. If he was on dirt stockers, he's a god, and he burned those things down. No offense, he was clearly working that car, and made it wide where it had to be, but dirt stockers? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    Dirt stockers?? Really? I thought I saw something else on like molded rains, but not dirt stockers. If he was on dirt stockers, he's a god, and he burned those things down. No offense, he was clearly working that car, and made it wide where it had to be, but dirt stockers? I don't think so.
    Just cause you couldn't get around him doesn't mean it's not true!! :cool:

    I had a "little" more time in pre-grid to see what was going on than you did............ He did a lot of searching for water and by the end was going really slow (but still amazingly fast considering!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post

    I had a "little" more time in pre-grid to see what was going on than you did............
    What are you talkin about? Jake is always the first car on grid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dominojd View Post
    What are you talkin about? Jake is always the first car on grid.
    Hey, in Summit, I had top notch crew, and I was 1st car on grid for all sessions but one.! (It was reeeeaaaaly tight on Saturday, last minute change to Qs)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    Just cause you couldn't get around him doesn't mean it's not true!! :cool:

    I had a "little" more time in pre-grid to see what was going on than you did............ He did a lot of searching for water and by the end was going really slow (but still amazingly fast considering!)
    Jake....Lou in IT7 was definately on dirt stockers. He showed me them in the pits and on his car before the race. He told me in the pits after that he had no grip in the dry on them and had to look for the rain line.....LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    Just cause you couldn't get around him doesn't mean it's not true!! :cool:

    I had a "little" more time in pre-grid to see what was going on than you did............ He did a lot of searching for water and by the end was going really slow (but still amazingly fast considering!)
    yea yea, next to him, but pushed off into the wet, LOL. so, no, didn't get around him. Maybe he had some old ones, but they haven't been available in anything over a 13" in two or more years, I thought.
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    Lou said that they are no longer available(dirt stockers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenB View Post
    It was Rick P. with his alfa in the 1990s with I think a 103.3 unless of course you all beat that this weekend :eek: I turned a 103.7 in 2008 with Ken on my but in his 2002. Did anyone get in the 3s this past weekend?

    How did ken do anyway, he has been fast all year in the pro-it stuff. Congrats to Tim on a great finish amoungst the fastest of B!

    And to all the others congrats as well, I plan on finding out what events everyone is doing next year so that I can race with you more, this year was fun but only a few of us did the pro-it races, and I would love to mix it up with all of you again :026:

    Stephen
    Rick Pocock is a very understated fellow. Fast as a whip in FF and ITB. Had him as an instructor in both Skippy racing school and SCDA and you'd never know what a great record he had on track from him, ever. His career came to an end last year in NJ with a bad crash in his Club Ford but a great instructor and nice guy.

    Enough gay love on here, Rick...LOL
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    The new pavement has a TON of grip but we all had to dial out a touch of push to start bettering our lap times. Plus now we know to stay off the inside curbs in the uphill and West Bend...

    Not a huge fan of a 2-day single but the 32 lap race was worth it!!!
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    How about some ITS and ITR updates? Any times and finishing positions? Good battles?

    Way to go Doc Bro on the NARRC championship - Rob Thiele, you are a consumate gentleman. Looking foward to the Pro IT at NJMP to polish off the season
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