Maybe Mopar is right!

[Streetwise guy]

The ACR hubs are on national backorder up here- there was 7 on b.o. this morning when I phoned my dealership, now there is 11, since I run a Neon ministock too. If they don't show in a couple of weeks I may have to start beating the bushes for a source. Any suggestions?

[cjb25hs]

The ACR hubs are on national backorder up here- there was 7 on b.o. this morning when I phoned my dealership, now there is 11, since I run a Neon ministock too. If they don't show in a couple of weeks I may have to start beating the bushes for a source. Any suggestions?

I had to go with the Napa Hub, they make a Heavy Duty Hub which is thicker than a stock neon. IIRC the stock hub flange is 8mm, the ACR is 10mm and the napa flange is 9 and change, plus you can get them for around $80 each if you have an shop acct.

[Streetwise guy]

Napa is a block from my shop. I shall inspect, and look for "Made in China" signs. Thanks!

[Rabbit07]

Check with your dealer regarding this # 04670292 (ACR)

This is the hub only. The Hub and bearing kits are all gone and not likely going to return from what my sources @ Mopar tell me.

The napa part is junk, I would only use it in a pinch.

Email me for further info.

Cheers

[splats]

I've got over 10 hrs on my "NAPA-junk" hubs & bearrings with ZERO problems. During which, I even had a braking problem that melted & warped a set of Hawk Blues. Since I run the same tracks as Darryl & he was using the ACR hubs, how can you say which is better or worse (ACR vs NAPA)????????????

Quick poll:
Which Hub/Bearring were you using when it failed??
1) ACR (mopar)
2) non-ACR (mopar)
3) NAPA
4) other

[cjb25hs]

Have not had a failure on any yet.

[Rabbit07]

I've got over 10 hrs on my "NAPA-junk" hubs & bearrings with ZERO problems. During which, I even had a braking problem that melted & warped a set of Hawk Blues. Since I run the same tracks as Darryl & he was using the ACR hubs, how can you say which is better or worse (ACR vs NAPA)????????????

Quick poll:
Which Hub/Bearring were you using when it failed??
1) ACR (mopar)
2) non-ACR (mopar)
3) NAPA
4) other

Slow the cart down there a minute.......

I ordered 6 hubs from Napa and not one of them measured the same as any other one?

Hub failures on Neons; gen1, gen2, SRT-4 are very common. What tire compund you use, what spring rate you use, what bushings you have, all play a factor.

I have never broken one, but I replace them every 10 hours, period!

If you wish to risk your car, or your life with an inferior part, that is your business. No car leaves my shop with anything other than the Mopar piece.

[Streetwise guy]

I have broken a stock piece ice racing 5 years ago, and an ACR piece roadracing- big springs and Konis and poly bushings and one curb exiting a chicane on my home track that is probably pretty hard on things. There are two Napa parts listed, one Chinese, one SKF. The Chinese one I would not even put in a street car. I got an SKF kit, so we'll see how it performs this weekend.

Thanks for the hub number- the only listing I had seen was the upgrade kit from MP. It never occurred to me to look for the hub only. Thanks.

[splats]

All that I was trying to point out was that ALL the failures that I've heard about were the ACR's. I've only had the Neon for 2 seasons, so I'm still trying to sort it out. It just seems strange that an ACR hub will only last for 10 hrs on 'our' cars, yet the street version will last 125k-150k + miles. Yes, I know that we are rougher on them. But, that much rougher???? I'm running 400# springs on the front & Toyos.

As far as the NAPA (or other) hubs, how many of them have failed??

Just because a part has Mopar (or GM or Ford) on it, does NOT automatically make it supperior to the after-market parts.

I'm not trying to start an argument or offend anyone. But if all (most) of the failures are factory hubs, maybe I/we need to try other ones. Safety is my #1 concern, finishing is #2, & speed is #3. If all brands of hubs are failing, then WHY?? My Daytona had 100k+ miles on it before we turned it into a circle-track car. It ran asphalt, dirt, & figure-8. We then put it in ITB & ran 4 seasons with it (mostly Sebring). Had several axle changes & VERY stiff front springs. It still has the same hub/bearrings that were in the car when I bounght it in '00. WHAT IS SO STRANGE ABOUT THE NEONS?? I've not heard of this problem from other brands (VW, Honda, etc.).