To all the ITA drivers

[Mark G. Downing]

I'm sorry if it sounded like I wanted to move ITE into your run group because that is not what I was trying to say. I started off looking for options other than running with ITE,GTA,STO,and AS (I just want to turn laps and get back into the swing of things). Dan's idea is the right one. We can just run group 4 and maybe have an option of STU in group five. I guess I should have thought about this a little more before going to the board, but I thank you for your feedback.

Thanks,
Mark Downing

[R2 Racing]

Mark, I was under the impression that this chassis has had several things done to it that were not IT legal. I think Matt even told me it was closer to a LP Prod car than an IT car. If the car is otherwise 100% IT legal other than your engine being a Y8 instead of a Z6, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

For those who don't know, the D16Y8 came in the '96-'00 EX (the 'EK' chassis) while the D16Z6 came in the '92-'95 EX (the 'EG' chassis). Both cars are classed in ITA at the same weight, 2305lbs. The engines are almost identical, with the block and head molds being the same, but IIRC the Y8 is factory rated at about +2hp over the Z6.

[jimmyc]

Mark, I was under the impression that this chassis has had several things done to it that were not IT legal. I think Matt even told me it was closer to a LP Prod car than an IT car. If the car is otherwise 100% IT legal other than your engine being a Y8 instead of a Z6, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

For those who don't know, the D16Y8 came in the '96-'00 EX (the 'EK' chassis) while the D16Z6 came in the '92-'95 EX (the 'EG' chassis). Both cars are classed in ITA at the same weight, 2305lbs. The engines are almost identical, with the block and head molds being the same, but IIRC the Y8 is factory rated at about +2hp over the Z6.

here are the specs
D16Z6

* Found in
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic Si
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic EX, EX-V
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic ESi (European Market)
o 1993-1995 Honda Del Sol Si (US)
o 1993-1995 Honda Del Sol ESi (European)
+ Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
+ Bore and Stroke : 75 mm × 90 mm (3.0 in × 3.5 in)
+ Rod Length : 137MM
+ Rod/Stroke : 1.52
+ Compression : 9.2:1
+ Power : 125 hp (93.2 kW, 127 ps) @ 6600 rpm
+ Torque : 106 ft·lb (14.7 kg/m, 144 Nm) @ 5200 rpm
+ Redline : 7200 rpm
+ Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
+ VTEC Switchover : 4800 rpm[3]
+ Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
+ Head Code : P08
+ ECU Code : P28
D16Y8

VTEC

Also available in New Zealand under the code D16Y6

* Found in
o 1999-2000 Honda Civic SE 1.6 Vtec (UK)
o 1996-1999 Honda Civic EX Sedan
o 1996-1999 Honda Civic EX Coupe
o 1996-2000 Honda Civic EX (US)
o 1996-2000 Honda Civic SI (Canada Only)
o 1997-2000 Acura 1.6EL (Canada Only)
o 1996-1997 Honda del Sol Si
o 1997-2000 Rover 416 Auto
+ Displacemnt : 1590cc
+ Bore and Stroke : 75 mm × 90 mm (3.0 in × 3.5 in)
+ Rod Length : 137 MM
+ Rod/Stroke : 1.52
+ Compression : 9.6:1
+ Valvetrain : SOHC 4 valves per cylinder
+ Power : 127 hp (94.7 kW, 229 ps) @ rpm
+ Torque : 111 ft·lbf (45.79 kg/m, 145.1 Nm) @ rp
+ Head Code : P2J
+ Piston Code : P2P
+ Redline 7200 rpm
+ ECU Code : P2P


the compression difference comes from the head chamber IIRC. And also the Intake Manifold is of different design.

[Mark G. Downing]

Kevin, Your FP car looks and runs great. My car had no heater core, dash, had no trim, it had lexan widows, etc, but I bought a wrecked civic about a year ago to put all those parts back on the car. The glass guy is coming next week, but I'm going to run group 4 on the IT Fest weekend anyway.

Thanks,
Mark Downing

[dhardison]

Mark you're already casting the mould of your new FWD career as a troublemaker!

Hopefully no other hi-po ITE cars register and we can convince them to let us slide in to Group 5.

Dan

[Mark G. Downing]

Dan,

Watch it blow up the 1st lap of the PDX. Wouldn't that be just a ball of fun.

Thanks,
Mark Downing

[downingracing]

Joe is right - One slow red Civic at the rear of the field is plenty!!!!!!!!

Kevin, the car is now 'close' to IT trim. One parts car and a ton of hours later - it has just about everything installed to be IT legal. The motor is the 'big' thing that is wrong... IT will be ITA legal by the end of the year!

I think moving ITE to the ITR/ITS group could work as long as no high HP cars enter in ITE.

I don't care what happens - I'm just looking forward to getting out for the first time this year!!! (And trying to keep it on the black part and under 2:00.00 laps )

[jimmyc]

Joe is right - One slow red Civic at the rear of the field is plenty!!!!!!!!

Kevin, the car is now 'close' to IT trim. One parts car and a ton of hours later - it has just about everything installed to be IT legal. The motor is the 'big' thing that is wrong... IT will be ITA legal by the end of the year!

I think moving ITE to the ITR/ITS group could work as long as no high HP cars enter in ITE.

I don't care what happens - I'm just looking forward to getting out for the first time this year!!! (And trying to keep it on the black part and under 2:00.00 laps )

Just curious what was the car from/built/ran in previously?