12 hrs of Summit

[StephenB]

Good luck to everyone this weekend!
The entry list looks great!

If anyone that lurks here has internet at the track feel free to post updates here!



5 ITR Ron Willis White w/red & blk 1992 BMW 325i Manassas Motorwerkes Inc/Spider Pig Racing
8 ITS Don Himes Black 1999 Mazda Miata
10 ITA Mac Spikes Yellow 1995 Mazda Miata East Street Auto / SAFERACER / diyautotune.com
12 SSM Bruce Shelton White & Black 1991 Mazda Miata Automotive Enterprises / The Wheel
18 ITA Andrew Zimmermann Red 1998 Acura Integra Hankook Tire, Icarp.net
19 ITA Steve Colletti Red 1996 Acura Integra Colletti Motorsports
21 ITS Bruce Ledoux Silver 1999 Mazda Miata Guardian Angel Motorsports
23 ITE Matt Miskoe Red 1995 Mazda Miata American Engineering & Testing
25 ITS Teri Willis White 1987 BMW 325is Manassas Motorwerkes
28 T1 Lance Miller Red 2003 Chevrolet Corvette Carlisle Events, Mechanicsburg Sports Car Center, Lawrence Chevrolet
32 SSM Robert Dimarco White 1990 Mazda Miata Mitchum Motorsports/RP Performance
33 SM Chris Mitchum Black 1999 Mazda Miata Mitchum Motorsports/Ride for Jim.org
39 ITE Jason Marks Yellow/white 1992 BMW 325i Bimmerworld
41 SSM Joe Plunkett Yellow 1997 Mazda Miata Subway
43 SSM Brian Billey Enduro Silver 1990 Mazda Miata Cottonwood/ Meathead Racing
56 ITE Rick Stewart Silver 2002 BMW 330i Piper Motorsport
57 ITE Serge Tousignant YELLOW 1997 BMW M3 BIMMERSHOP
59 ITR Dave Volante White 1998 Acura Integra Type R High Street Racing
69 ITB Scott Holman yellw/black 1979 plymouth arrow frederick motorsports
75 SM Michael Collins Arctic Blue/Orange 1999 Mazda Miata MEATHEAD Racing/York Automotive
77 SM Bill Miskoe Black/Silver 1994 Mazda Miata Iron Dragon Racing
87 ITS Sam Schechter Blue 1992 Mazda Miata Neuromonitoring Technologies
88 ITA Kurt Thiel Green 1990 Mazda Miata kumho tires,father dominic, flying bugger racing
89 SM Manuel Dasilva white 1994 mazda sm phr
94 ITE Paul Moorcones yellow 2000 Acura Integra Type R Radial Tire Company
95 SSB Thomas Sheehan red 2008 Mazda MX-5 guardian angel motor sports
99 ITE Steve Snow BLACK 2007 BMW 3 SERIES BIMMERWORKS.COM
03 ITE William Miller Red 2003 Chevrolet Corvette Carlisle Events,Mechanicsburg Sports Car Center, Lawrence Chevrolet
08 SM Wiliam Hess White 1991 Mazda Miata

[Bob Roth]

#59 Integra type R, See our race report, www.highstreetracing.com "

[StephenB]

Thanks for the updates and congrats on the win... It's probably not a real endurance race unless you test the endurance of the crew!!! Your group certainly proved that!!

Will we meet at the 12 hrs of Nelson? We plan on going out but in an ITB Golf... After competing in 100's of races this is the one I am most excited about!

Stephen Blethen

[Bill Miller]

Wow, this had actually slipped my mind. Talk about telling a tale of the economy! 30 cars? I remember when (only in the last couple of years), they had to get a waiver to start more than 50 cars (25 cars per mile rule).

[racecarjohn]

I have run the 12 Hr before and ran into the night. What was the opinion about starting at 9am and running until 9 pm with almost no headlights needed? Do you think you might have more show up it ran in to the night? That was part of the alure for me and my friends to run. We couldn't make it this year but looking at next year

By the way, was there a reason givin to change the start time?

[Knestis]

My understanding is that the region decided to start earlier to make headlights a non-issue to make it "easier" for teams to get prepared and enter.

Personally, I wouldn't NOT do the Summit 12 just because it doesn't go into the night but that is part of the allure of endurance racing for me.

K

[Gregg]

As one who was in on the dicsussions and decision to make the schedule change, there were multiple reasons.

• Perhaps the most important--we had requests from multiple specialties (specifically T&S) to change the time so that they could leave the track earlier and not have to drive in the middle of the night to get home after having spent 15+hrs at the track
• In what we anticipated to be a "down" year based on economic factors, we believed that it would be easier to prepare / convert cars if they didn't need the light bars. Remember that this is just after we started allowing SRFs into the fold.
• The move to an earlier start time would save the region considerable $$, removing the need for the light booms so that T&S / Control could track cars, and removing the need to providing night visibility of corner stations / flag conditions.

Of course the corollary is that flaggers and pit workers needed to spend more time in the hot sun than in year past.

Although I have heard from a few drivers/teams that they would have considered running this year if we stayed at 12-12 (or 11-11) the fact is that is was a down year as predicted. Some regulars (like the good Dr.) didn't enter and while I'm sure the lack of night running played a small part, I truly believe there were bigger factors at play that kept the numbers down.

[Knestis]

Oh, sorry - let's be clear that CMS not coming had ONLY to do with finding funded codrivers. I'll run any enduro if there's enough $$ to make it happen.

K

[Bill Miller]

As one who was in on the dicsussions and decision to make the schedule change, there were multiple reasons.

• Perhaps the most important--we had requests from multiple specialties (specifically T&S) to change the time so that they could leave the track earlier and not have to drive in the middle of the night to get home after having spent 15+hrs at the track
• In what we anticipated to be a "down" year based on economic factors, we believed that it would be easier to prepare / convert cars if they didn't need the light bars. Remember that this is just after we started allowing SRFs into the fold.
• The move to an earlier start time would save the region considerable $$, removing the need for the light booms so that T&S / Control could track cars, and removing the need to providing night visibility of corner stations / flag conditions.

Of course the corollary is that flaggers and pit workers needed to spend more time in the hot sun than in year past.

Although I have heard from a few drivers/teams that they would have considered running this year if we stayed at 12-12 (or 11-11) the fact is that is was a down year as predicted. Some regulars (like the good Dr.) didn't enter and while I'm sure the lack of night running played a small part, I truly believe there were bigger factors at play that kept the numbers down.

Not for nothing Gregg, I would think that you would cater to the 'paying' customers, rather than the volunteers. As Dr. K. pointed out, part of the draw is the night portion of the race. Did you lose 20-ish entries because of the schedule change? Hard to say, and no one will ever know. I agree that economic factors probably played a larger role. Too bad, it's a great race.

[IPRESS]

Greg, I think you guys had a legit call on it this year. It is real hard to tell if it was 9-9 or just the economy. I think it was the economy more than anything. I wonder if a compromise might work in the future. (It is never good to disregard the ideas of the volunteer force that allows us racers to race.) How about instead of 9-9 or 12-12 you find something inbetween?

BTW, Can you link me to the ITE rules that apply to the 12HR?

[Andy Bettencourt]

Not for nothing Gregg, I would think that you would cater to the 'paying' customers, rather than the volunteers.

Nobody like change...but without the volunteers, NOBODY gets to race.