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  1. #1
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    I've been running the Blues for a long time. Tried Carbotech 10s this weekend on the front (have been running Carbotech rears)because I was having wear issues with the Hawks, but they only lasted 2 qualifying sessions and a 30 minute race. I used to get 2 full weekends on Blues and changed rotors every other set. This season, I only get one weekend now and it's chewing up the rotors. I haven't changed anything on the car, but this is getting ridiculous (and expensive). I'm running full bias to the rear.
    I must be doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Dave Ciufo
    Livonia, NY
    ITS 240Z #34
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    How much cooling have you got running to the rotors?

    Check the piston seal on the calipers. I actually cooked the seal and it was causing a pad to drag.

    Just thinking out loud.....
    Paul Ballance
    Tennessee Valley Region (yeah it's in Alabama)
    ITS '72
    1972 240Z
    "Experience is what you get when you're expecting something else." unknown

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    I have 1 -3" hose running to the front of each caliper from an opening in the airdam under the bumper . It's attached directly using a modified dustshield.The seals on the caliper are cooked after only a couple of events, so maybe that's the problem. I'd like to get another hose in there but i can't see how with the space constraints.

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    Dave Ciufo
    Livonia, NY
    ITS 240Z #34
    SM #34

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    I made some epoxy fiberglass composite ducts that allow a 3" hose to blow through the caliper. These drop the caliper temp about 200 degrees at Road Atlanta with a very fast driver, not me! I am working on a duct to split a 3" hose to blow on both sides of the rotor, but other things have kept me from finishing it.

    Mike

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    Exclamation air.....flow....

    Man,
    You gotta get more air to your brakes.... At least 2 ducts, 3 needed to keep things cooler at Road Atlanta......hat on caliper, and 2 to the rotor...... Its not pleasant at pit out on the 10th lap hitting the floor...... Can ya say dirt tracking brakes!!!!!

    I gotta get on the track!!!! Any Track!!!

    David
    30 year old ITS car

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    Dave, Here is a link to an old thread that has pictures of ductwork.
    https://improvedtouring.com...t=22163&page=2

    I don't have Katmans's pictures on this machine so I will post them up tomorrow along with Parrish's set up.

    Mike, shoot me a pm with your email. I want to talk with you about the ducts you have built. I need an alternative to the caliper hat that I currently have.
    Paul Ballance
    Tennessee Valley Region (yeah it's in Alabama)
    ITS '72
    1972 240Z
    "Experience is what you get when you're expecting something else." unknown

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    Ok, here are the pictures of other racers solutions to Z brake ducting.
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    Paul Ballance
    Tennessee Valley Region (yeah it's in Alabama)
    ITS '72
    1972 240Z
    "Experience is what you get when you're expecting something else." unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by ITZ34 View Post
    I must be doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Maybe you're going faster.

    Old tires could do that too. Can't stop as well with less sticky tires. If everything else is working and you have sufficient cooling, (you said nothing changed).

    Tom

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