First set of tires

[cjb25hs]

assuming I get to run enough to need tires and not just use up old junk ones I have. I'll be buying v710 because tire rack has 205/55-14 for 128 a piece unless the price has changed in the last week. Just a thought

Last time i checked they were back up to $155 or $158 a piece. Probably was an error. i knew I should have ordered them online when I saw them that cheap.:eek:

[wepsbee]

Do the Toyo's need to be shaved to be a decent competitive tire or can the tread stay. Do the Toyo's need to be heat cycled prior to using in a race. Thanks for the advice !!!!!

[gran racing]

Re: tred or no tred. Is your hope to use them as rain & dry tires?

Toyos don't need to be heat cycled.

[wepsbee]

I have 1 set already setup with full tread for rain. I now need a good set for dry racing as the current set is less than optimal!!!!!!!

[joeg]

Dan--My experience with Toyos is that they can be a "greasy" tire when hot, so for the dry, they should be shaved.

Adds to the expense, unfortunately.

[wepsbee]

Thank you, I will have them shaved, greasy is not good!!

[mc-integra111]

Do the Toyo's need to be shaved to be a decent competitive tire or can the tread stay. Do the Toyo's need to be heat cycled prior to using in a race. Thanks for the advice !!!!!

When I was starting out, I ran full tread RA1's in the dry. I did not think they were greasy, but they did not have competitive grip levels. As I wore down the tread, the grip got better and better. I would say you would need to shave an RA1 down to 2/32" (normal shaving is 4/32") to be competitive. I would say I gained about 2 sec (on a 1:30 lap time) on a nearly used up tire versus when I ran that same tire full tread. I never heat cycled my RA1's.

[wepsbee]

Thanks for all the help!!

[gran racing]

Dan, I'd shave them to 4/32". Maybe if it were a spec tire for the class I'd do 2/32" but part of your decision obviously financially driven and it really won't make that much difference. Besides, after a couple of races you'll have the tires down to 2/32" anyway.

You know, I still feel bad about not having been able to help you more when at the Glen. I will never eat at that restaurant again!

[lateapex911]

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You know, I still feel bad about not having been able to help you more when at the Glen. I will never eat at that restaurant again!

That's music to my ears!

[wepsbee]

Dan, I'd shave them to 4/32". Maybe if it were a spec tire for the class I'd do 2/32" but part of your decision obviously financially driven and it really won't make that much difference. Besides, after a couple of races you'll have the tires down to 2/32" anyway.

You know, I still feel bad about not having been able to help you more when at the Glen. I will never eat at that restaurant again!

Not to worry another year has arrived and more learning to be done. I appreciate the try!! If I tell the vendor to have them shaved should I specify dept or is the 4/32" standard.

[Gibson]

If anybody at Road Atlanta is looking to get rid of 14x6s real cheep or free, let me know. I will be lurking around the pits both days and am interested in any brand, any condition.

[mc-integra111]

Dave is right, most of the grip is gained as the initial tread depth is lost. To give more info, I would say i gained ~1.5 sec from 8/32" (full tread RA1) to 4/32", while only gaining another ~.5 sec from 4/32" down to corded.

If I tell the vendor to have them shaved should I specify dept or is the 4/32" standard.

I would always specify depth (or at least ask what depth the retailer usually does), just so there are no mistakes.

[wepsbee]

Thanks to all, great place for info!!