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    Huh. And here I was, thinking of proposing a rule to ditch the 4-years-plus-1 rule...

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    umm... NO.
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    LOL.

    Lots of problems with the idea, if I even understand it correctly.

    It appears that he wants the CRB (ITAC) to put a limit on cars that are classed, and he hints at rule changes as well, to limit expenditure.

    I don't see an issue. I watched a top notch race last summer at the IT Fest between a 25 yr old car and a 8 yr old car. The new car won, by 2 seconds. I also watched a 22 yr old car clean up over much newer cars. As a matter of fact, "new" and (I assume) expensive cars haven't really cleaned up in any class.

    That's a sign that the classification process is working. Old and new are on the same footing.

    Now, where is the problem? Obviously, the category provides many low cost and competitive options. There is no real NEED to buy the latest and greatest if you want to be the fastest.

    The category provides options of newer models as well...but hey, if you don't want to spend the money, DON'T! It appears that the writer is confusing the opportunity to spend lots of money with the need to...but that need just doesn't exist.

    I find the proposal vague, lacking reasoning, and without concrete examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    It appears that the writer is confusing the opportunity to spend lots of money with the need to...but that need just doesn't exist.
    Very well said!
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    David,

    Was that your prior request in the April 2008 Fastrack for alternate Gear Ratios for the Jetta and an open allowance for Fuel Injectors? If so, was it also an idea to help keep build and running costs low?

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    Another needlesss answere to a needless question nobody asked?
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    David, I appreciate the thought you put into that. It's clear you have considered this for some time.

    However, it's just not entirely clear to me what it is you are asking for. As Kirk stated, regardless of the initial price of a chassis, there is no real way to control costs on a race car build. Spec Miata should provide you with a prime example of how with even very limited prep rules, costs cannot be contained.

    What criteria would you propose for determining that a car is too expensive to be classified?

    Do you have any support amongst IT racers for this proposal? It frankly came out of the blue, which is fine, but as a practical matter I don't see how the ITAC can consider a change to the fundamental statemet of purpose for IT based on a single request.

    Let us know your further thoughts on this.
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    XIAN--My prior request to add gears to the Jetta, and the allowance to change injectors has nothing to do with my current Proposal. They are not related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D. Ellis-Brown View Post
    XIAN--My prior request to add gears to the Jetta, and the allowance to change injectors has nothing to do with my current Proposal. They are not related.
    Exactly. They seem to be at odds with each other. I guess I was just thinking that there would be more internal cost consistency from someone looking to change the intent and purpose of IT and try to "contain costs".

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