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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    It appears that the writer is confusing the opportunity to spend lots of money with the need to...but that need just doesn't exist.
    Very well said!
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    David,

    Was that your prior request in the April 2008 Fastrack for alternate Gear Ratios for the Jetta and an open allowance for Fuel Injectors? If so, was it also an idea to help keep build and running costs low?

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    Another needlesss answere to a needless question nobody asked?
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    David, I appreciate the thought you put into that. It's clear you have considered this for some time.

    However, it's just not entirely clear to me what it is you are asking for. As Kirk stated, regardless of the initial price of a chassis, there is no real way to control costs on a race car build. Spec Miata should provide you with a prime example of how with even very limited prep rules, costs cannot be contained.

    What criteria would you propose for determining that a car is too expensive to be classified?

    Do you have any support amongst IT racers for this proposal? It frankly came out of the blue, which is fine, but as a practical matter I don't see how the ITAC can consider a change to the fundamental statemet of purpose for IT based on a single request.

    Let us know your further thoughts on this.
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    are you saying that ITR should not exist? i am not sure i understand the comment regarding not classifying cars

    ...determined by the Club to be outside of these parameters shall not be classified


    can you give specific examples of cars that should not be classified within each class? or is it that ITR should not exist?

    i am also having a hard time understanding the average post rate of less than one per year from someone that is "vocal" (join date of 2005 and this is the 3rd post?)

    looking forward to your comments & clarifications.
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    look, i race ITC because thats what i fell into and what i can afford... i have no problem with people building what they like and what they can afford... if that's ITD or ITR, as long as they can drive and i can drive it's fine with me.

    in fact, i even plan on building one of those ITR RSX's one day. i'm aware of the cost, and believe me.. that car will have a lot more miles on it by the time it ses the track, than it does now.

    the rules are fine as is.

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    ITR isn't expensive... Ben just picked up a 968 for $500! Let in the V8's - that'll bring the average ITR build price down.

    Sure IT was cheap (for racing anyway) 15 or 20 years ago, but that's just because very few were trying anywhere near as hard as they are today. The same is true for spec miata, just on a shorter timescale.

    The only way to truly limit costs is with a claimer rule, and I can't image that would be very poplular.

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    XIAN--My prior request to add gears to the Jetta, and the allowance to change injectors has nothing to do with my current Proposal. They are not related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D. Ellis-Brown View Post
    XIAN--My prior request to add gears to the Jetta, and the allowance to change injectors has nothing to do with my current Proposal. They are not related.
    Exactly. They seem to be at odds with each other. I guess I was just thinking that there would be more internal cost consistency from someone looking to change the intent and purpose of IT and try to "contain costs".

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