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    Default Super Touring is IT

    Has anyone looked at the new Super Touring rules? Super Touring is the new name for the old B and D Prepared classes. The restrictors have been removed and the cars have been classed on a cubic centimeter (CC) per pound bases. STO is for 3.0 liters and above. STU is 3.0 liters and below. These two classes have National racing status and all IT cars 1985 and newer are eligible. These classes only need 180 entries this year to be eligible for the 2010 Runoffs.

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    It'll never fly. It's a category based on expediency and politicking rather than any kind of strategic planning or vision. Doomed, I tell you.

    K

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    The only way I see it really flying is IT guys double dipping for seat time OR guys that run with other sanctioning bodies dropping by for a weekend where they're not running in ITE or SP. The only real neat part for me is that some of the high dollar ITE guys will possibly step out and I'll get an extra lap or two per race
    Scott Rhea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knestis View Post
    It'll never fly. It's a category based on expediency and politicking rather than any kind of strategic planning or vision. Doomed, I tell you.

    K
    I love expediency and politicking and am constantly using it to overcome strategic planning and vision. How else am I supposed to I make a living in sales?

    This could solve my 12A housing dilemma. 1985 and newer? I'm out unless that new VIN rule lumps my car into that spec line. How does that work again?
    Tom Sprecher

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    Default I just got this email

    Tom, I just saw your post on IT.com. For some reason I am locked out of the site and can not post. There is no VIN rule in Super Touring, so if the last year of a certain model was built in 1985 they all are in. You could street port your 13B or put a Renisis in. Please post this on IT.com for me.

    Peter Keane
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    Tom Sprecher

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    Thanks Tom, I am back under a new name. STU is going to be a good class.

    Jhooten, the rules say you can peice part the dash back in. PK

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    Kirt, STU is 1.1 pounds per CC, not a lot of politics there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom_sprecher View Post
    Tom, I just saw your post on IT.com. For some reason I am locked out of the site and can not post. There is no VIN rule in Super Touring, so if the last year of a certain model was built in 1985 they all are in. You could street port your 13B or put a Renisis in. Please post this on IT.com for me.

    Peter Keane
    SCCA CRB
    So, if I read this right...I can take my 1979 ITB Ford Mustang and run STU?
    Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom_sprecher;279429[FONT=Arial
    You could street port your 13B or put a Renisis in.[/FONT]
    At 1.1#/cc and assuming the typical factor of two for rotaries that would give me 2616cc I'd have to add almost 600# to my car? Is that right?

    Every cloud has a silver lining. As a bonus to switching to STU I can give up on any diet I was trying to keep to.
    Tom Sprecher

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    I was wondering about rotaries and STU so I looked at the rules. 1.1/cc does not include wankles. The rule is:



    "4.
    The Mazda 13B and Renesis rotary engines are permitted at 2600

    lbs. The 13B may be street ported. The Renesis shall remain


    unported."


    Then you have to look at the turbo rules and the inlet size. Oh well, RX8 loses again......



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    Nice thought...

    ...if you've got a new car...

    Haven't even been bothering to watch this noise, really.
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    Damn, now I have to figure out how to put the dash back in the ITE car.
    Jerry

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    The Scott team will be one of those double dipping in STU/IT7 with our POS-7 in Midiv for 2009. No chance in hell of being competitive if "real" ST cars show up but the fun factor should be pretty high. Along with the closing speeds! Trey will run in IT7 and dear old dad will run STU. We'll keep at it as long as the car holds up. With the winter mods we have planned we may even surprise a car or two along the way.

    If it is an attempt to garner more entries and seat time from IT racers then the club hit the target dead on with us and our situation. We were extremely excited to see the year rollback to 1985 as that now encompasses our entire race car fleet, the 1985 POS-7, a 1985 BMW 325e under construction, and a 1988 Porsche 944S project. All will get prepped to IT specs primarily and then run ST if the class lasts any length of time.

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