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    Quote Originally Posted by jjjanos View Post
    I'm pretty certain that the official results have to be made available at the track. Mylaps should be nothing more than an auxilliary posting on a free website, at no cost to the Regions or drivers. According to our Chief of T&S, mylaps cannot be the *official* results because its format isn't GCR compliant.
    What's not GCR-compliant about it? Mylaps shows every bit of information that is on our printed results at the track (including cars, hometowns, and race notes.)

    I see other regions choose not to put all the info up there, but that's not mylaps' fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by backformore View Post
    When I first came across this, it appeared that the only problem was that you could not access results on my laps. When you register for a race, they ask for your transponder number. I'm pretty sure the software at the track uses data they input. Does anyone know if that is correct? If it is, the results at the track should be correct.

    If the only official results are those posted on MyLaps then there clearly needs to be a resolution or SCCA needs to cease using MyLaps for results.
    Rory you are right this has no effect on T&S at the track.
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    YOU MAY NOT CARE, but that Mark Franklin guy out in Colorado sure will. His image will be besmerched beyond repair. Nationally published crappy lap times, constant midpack finishes., and numerous DOs and protests will drag his name through the mud! If I had sold you a car i would have bought you a Tponder just to save my good name!!!!!!
    Maybe I should give my transponder to Randy Pobst to improve my image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjjanos View Post

    - The freaking thing is free. You don't pay squat to get access to the transponder records.

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    You're telling me the $350+ for a little chunck of plastic isn't paying for it???


    It's like trying to explain to my kids that the "buy one, get one free" really isn't free!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshS View Post
    What's not GCR-compliant about it? Mylaps shows every bit of information that is on our printed results at the track (including cars, hometowns, and race notes.)
    I have no idea what needs to be there to be GCR-compliant. I'm just saying what our chief of T&S said.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    You're telling me the $350+ for a little chunck of plastic isn't paying for it???
    That's exactly what I'm saying. If you buy that $350+ chunk of plastic that will take the heat/bouncing/dampness/vibration of being on a racecar and mylaps went dark the very next day... you cannot return the transponder because I'm pretty certain that AMB never said that the website service was part of purchasing the transponder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjjanos View Post
    I have no idea what needs to be there to be GCR-compliant. I'm just saying what our chief of T&S said.
    I think one of the things missing is your membership number.
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    Do your AMB Transponders have a seven digit number on them?

    I race RC cars and there is a company in the UK that can make a "copy" if you send them your transponder.

    With the car units, it seems you should not include it with the sale, but it would be nice if AMB would have warned of this and allowed a 3-6 month grace period.

    I do know that our RC lap times, even if using house transponders had correct driver info once uploaded to MyLaps.com

    I hope even ground is found here. Maybe a $50 tranfer fee of ownership????
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    I gave the guy at mylaps.com the URL for this website so that they can see that people are pissed off by this change. Hopefully they will be smart enough to do something about it. This was prompted by my recent purchase of a spec miata with a hardwired AMB transponder included in the selling price. Obviously, my seller didn't know about the recent rule change.

    Bruce
    Last edited by BruceG; 11-24-2008 at 11:42 AM.

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    Very interested to hear the outcome; hoping to sell my car, has a hardwire tx, want to be able to sell it with and buy a new one for the new car, but that won't be possible to do if the policy isn't improved...

    I do think a modest transfer fee would be reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 924Guy View Post
    ...I do think a modest transfer fee would be reasonable.
    +1

    Charge me $20 to unregister it and add it to my account. That would involve setting up a payment link from the screens they ALREADY have for this process. Of course, now that sales of new units are down (most of us already have at least one...), this is a great way to force a new purchase on customers......
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    Just to clarify, this is purely about how the results are correlated on MyLaps.com ... the regions get your xpdr number for each event so your results at the track aren't affected by this issue.

    My dissatisfaction here is not based on whether or not the results will have my name on them on MyLaps.com. It's based on them trying to use the MyLaps.com facility to blackmail us into replacing perfectly good xpdrs. I don't consider blackmail to be good customer service, especially when we literally have *no* alternative to their product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainWho View Post
    I don't consider blackmail to be good customer service, especially when we literally have *no* alternative to their product.
    That's what pisses me off. Especially when AMB wants $300+ for exactly the same technology that the state turnpike authority will sell you for $10. At the grocery store.
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    Maybe we should try the "Sunpass" and see if the timer takes it??
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    Hi all,

    I'm having exactly the same issue, I bought a race car with an AMB transponder already hard wired to teh vehicle and didn't think it was a problem..
    And when I asked at Mylaps to unregister it and put it to my name, I have been told it's not possible but can buy a new one.., completely BS..!!!


    Yes, post something here if you find resolution...


    Thanks


    Frederic

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    Find a way to list the lap info on somewhere else than MyLaps.

    This would require someone able to convert the file info from AMB program into a simple txt format.

    I race RC cars and have three AMB personal transponders. The laps are saved in .pdf format I believe.

    Couldn't after the racing is done, the files be hosted for easy download in .pdf format?

    I know our little personal units can be copied, wonder if same company could copy the REAL car units?

    You can just make out my AMB personal transponder for RC car on the left side of this picture

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    Default From MyLaps website

    I just got a car with a transponder, luckily, the previous owner hadnt registered it. Read this:

    http://www.mylaps.com/general/usedtransponders.jsp

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdraper08 View Post
    IRead this:
    In other words: F U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdraper08 View Post
    I just got a car with a transponder, luckily, the previous owner hadnt registered it. Read this:

    http://www.mylaps.com/general/usedtransponders.jsp
    Just as there are new competitors for HNR devices perhaps we will get competition for AMB and get them off their high perch!

    I started this thread after purchasing a spec miata with the hard wired transponder included. Since we have this issue, I will purchase the portable transponder, move it between vehicles and never give AMB any business ever again(unless something breaks).

    What goes around comes around!!

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    Thanks to this thread I yanked mine when I sold the rabbit and put it in the new build.
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    Unless you are fortunate enough to own mulitple race cars I never understood the desire to have a portable unit that required recharging. Seems like a big PITA and one more thing I'd forget to do, but to each his own.

    When I bought my previous car it did not come with a transponder and the PO used a rechargable unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    In other words: F U.
    Greg, clearly you missed this:
    "Until the end of 2008, all orders placed through our webshop will be shipped free."

    See how nicely they are looking out for us
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