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    Quote Originally Posted by dominojd View Post
    I say we go for a all non honda podium next year.
    With a Pro striaght it could happen. My Neon can get real wide in the back part of the track..........
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    Yea - I gotta vote "BOO" for the pro course. Not real happy to hear that. (Probably won't keep me from coming, but "BOO"!) God intended Mid-Ohio to be run in the club course configuration.... (Low power Hondas don't like the pro course config. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by downingracing View Post
    Yea - I gotta vote "BOO" for the pro course. Not real happy to hear that. (Probably won't keep me from coming, but "BOO"!) God intended Mid-Ohio to be run in the club course configuration.... (Low power Hondas don't like the pro course config. )
    Never ran the Pro, so I look forward to trying it.
    And if it gets me closer to hitting Downing in the bumper, well that's just the cherry on top......
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    Steve,

    The only chance you have to hit my bumper is if I'm coming around to lap you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by downingracing View Post
    God intended Mid-Ohio to be run in the club course configuration.... (Low power Hondas don't like the pro course config. )
    Your forgetting, GOD IS A PRO!!!!!!!!!!:cool: Kick that rice grinder in the ass and you'll be 2 seconds faster than on the club course.

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    I am a bit faster, but catching the higher HP cars is easier with the 2/3 combo there...
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    To all,

    I know that some of you have become concerned about the possibility of Prod cars coming to the 2009 edition of the I.T.SPEC*tacular. I want to reassure you that we are exploring this possibility to shore up the SRF race group which many of you have noticed isn't exactly bursting at the seams. If decided upon the race group would consist of SRF, HP, EP and FP. The only other thing is that GTA has been invited and will be running in with the ground pounders. That group will consist of ITE, TCC, AS, GTA. The decision that needs to be made with this is where do we move ITR?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    To all,

    I know that some of you have become concerned about the possibility of Prod cars coming to the 2009 edition of the I.T.SPEC*tacular. I want to reassure you that we are exploring this possibility to shore up the SRF race group which many of you have noticed isn't exactly bursting at the seams. If decided upon the race group would consist of SRF, HP, EP and FP. The only other thing is that GTA has been invited and will be running in with the ground pounders. That group will consist of ITE, TCC, AS, GTA. The decision that needs to be made with this is where do we move ITR?


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    Todd,
    It might help if you also post the the proposed run groups for 2009.
    Dan

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    Being November its still subject to some major changes for the non-I.T. race groups.

    Major unknown factors:

    1. Southbend/WMR is holding a National at Gratten two weeks before our event with a proposed Formula Car restricted regional. This could effect whether the EWC and GLC would like to return to our event depending on their schedule.

    2. We are not sure of the outcome of the NASA championship move to Utah and how that will effect the NASA (Great Lakes region, a.k.a. Ohio/Indiana) activity at Mid Ohio. With the I.T.SPEC*tacular being able to accommodate many of the "big bore" classes in ITE the class may be way larger than the 6 entries we had in 2008.

    3. Butch Kummer figures that the GTA class may be around 15 cars. This could certainly go higher.

    So here are the options I see. Please don't take the run order or options as being set in stone. BTW, still the same format and 2 hrs of track time.

    Option 1

    SM, SSM
    ITR,ITA,IT7
    ITS,ITB,ITC
    ITE,TCC,AS,GTA
    SRF, PROD CLASSES
    FF,CFF,CFC,FC

    Option 2 ( If the formula guys opt out and GTA comes in mass)

    SM,SSM
    ITA,IT7,ITC
    ITS,ITB
    ITR,ITE,TCC,AS
    SRF,PROD CLASSES
    GTA

    Option 3 ( If the formula guys opt out and ITE comes in mass )

    SM,SSM
    ITR,ITA,IT7
    ITS,ITB,ITC
    TCC,AS,GTA
    SRF,PROD CLASSES
    ITE

    Option 4 ( If the formula guys opt out and a larger I.T. class commits 30 cars)

    SM, SSM
    TCC,AS,GTA,ITE
    SRF, PROD CLASSES
    *ITS, ITB, ITC
    *ITA, IT7, ITR
    (*ITA or ITS top 30 cars)

    There are other options of course but these are the senario's that Imho, are most likely to happen. If anyone has some other "constructive" options please let me know. I am always willing to hear from you guys. Welcome to my winter months.

    Todd

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj10 View Post
    It might help if you also post the the proposed run groups for 2009.
    Yeah, whomever gets stuck with Spec Miata needs time to lobby for a change...




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    Man. Now I really need to figure out how to get my car to handle better down the straights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    Being November its still subject to some major changes for the non-I.T. race groups.

    Major unknown factors:

    1. Southbend/WMR is holding a National at Gratten two weeks before our event with a proposed Formula Car restricted regional. This could effect whether the EWC and GLC would like to return to our event depending on their schedule.

    2. We are not sure of the outcome of the NASA championship move to Utah and how that will effect the NASA (Great Lakes region, a.k.a. Ohio/Indiana) activity at Mid Ohio. With the I.T.SPEC*tacular being able to accommodate many of the "big bore" classes in ITE the class may be way larger than the 6 entries we had in 2008.

    3. Butch Kummer figures that the GTA class may be around 15 cars. This could certainly go higher.

    So here are the options I see. Please don't take the run order or options as being set in stone. BTW, still the same format and 2 hrs of track time.

    Option 1

    SM, SSM
    ITR,ITA,IT7
    ITS,ITB,ITC
    ITE,TCC,AS,GTA
    SRF, PROD CLASSES
    FF,CFF,CFC,FC

    Option 2 ( If the formula guys opt out and GTA comes in mass)

    SM,SSM
    ITA,IT7,ITC
    ITS,ITB
    ITR,ITE,TCC,AS
    SRF,PROD CLASSES
    GTA

    Option 3 ( If the formula guys opt out and ITE comes in mass )

    SM,SSM
    ITR,ITA,IT7
    ITS,ITB,ITC
    TCC,AS,GTA
    SRF,PROD CLASSES
    ITE

    Option 4 ( If the formula guys opt out and a larger I.T. class commits 30 cars)

    SM, SSM
    TCC,AS,GTA,ITE
    SRF, PROD CLASSES
    *ITS, ITB, ITC
    *ITA, IT7, ITR
    (*ITA or ITS top 30 cars)

    There are other options of course but these are the senario's that Imho, are most likely to happen. If anyone has some other "constructive" options please let me know. I am always willing to hear from you guys. Welcome to my winter months.

    Todd
    You know we all appreciate the work you do Todd!!!


    My opinion. ITR and ITA is not such a great mix from the races we've had this year. I would think it would be glaring at a track like Mid O. It would probably be similar to Pocono where they kill the ITA cars down the straights and hold 'em up in the infield.

    No offense to the ITR guys, and just my opinon.
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    Split grid DEFINITELY makes the ITB/ITS combo do-able... I think the speed disparity there works better than mixing with ITA? Or maybe not... hard to say...

    I'm guessing 1 or 4 will be the most likely distributions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    You know we all appreciate the work you do Todd!!!


    My opinion. ITR and ITA is not such a great mix from the races we've had this year. I would think it would be glaring at a track like Mid O. It would probably be similar to Pocono where they kill the ITA cars down the straights and hold 'em up in the infield.

    No offense to the ITR guys, and just my opinon.
    No offence taken.:cool: I'm sure we understand your concerns and it's the same concerns that I have with regional ITE, AS....etc. A split start might help. From what I did last year, I'm hoping to be at least a full second faster than ITA & ITS. I doubt if there will be hoards of ITR cars also. Something to think about.

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    I'll keep working on it. Simple math solves all problems. If 10% of the 2000 registered I.T. drivers that make up Cen-Div, GLDiv, NEDiv, SEDiv,MidDiv. were to show up it would make life easier.

    Here's hoping it will happen by the 25th anniversary of I.T. in 2011.

    BTW, I.T. attendance
    2007......78
    2008......99


    Todd

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    Todd, as an aside, thanks for trekking all the way to Atlanta to flag and do the ITTC administrative and awards thing. Your devotion to things IT is appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    Todd, as an aside, thanks for trekking all the way to Atlanta to flag and do the ITTC administrative and awards thing. Your devotion to things IT is appreciated!
    Jake,

    And thank you for taking Fred Whites trophy and prize home. Remember if he doesn't claim it in 30 days its yours. j.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    I'll keep working on it. Simple math solves all problems. If 10% of the 2000 registered I.T. drivers that make up Cen-Div, GLDiv, NEDiv, SEDiv,MidDiv. were to show up it would make life easier.

    Here's hoping it will happen by the 25th anniversary of I.T. in 2011.

    BTW, I.T. attendance
    2007......78
    2008......99


    Todd
    21% increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj10 View Post
    21% increase
    Yep,

    Add those who had to drop out because of various issues and its probably closer to 25%. Very positive numbers.

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    To all,

    For those of you who haven't floated by the RoadRaceAutoX forums lately there has been a discussion going about adopting SEDiv./Atlanta region ITO/ITU class rules or some other 'Over"/ "Under" to allow NASA folks that want to run to do so.

    Just keeping inquiring minds informed.

    Todd

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