Question about ITA vw

[VWralley]

I just picked up a 1990 GTI 8v. I'd really like to run the car in ITA. my question is can i build the car to the 87-89 gti (1.8 16v) specs even though the car would technically have the 2L 16v? Since the car is origionally an 8v, is it ok to update it an run the appropriate class? I would assume as long as i use all the correct parts it would be ok either way? Also the later mk2's had different bumpers, would those also be required to be changed?

thanks for the help!

[shwah]

This used to be more difficult, because the VIN had to be correct. But now you can use any equivalent shell to make the car you want to race. The end result needs to be exactly the same as an OEM 16v based race car. You can run the 1.8 CIS-E injected small bumper setup, or the 2.0 CIS-E Motronic injected big bumper setup. I would go 1.8 myself, because the brakes will appreciate less weight.

All that said, the car is probably more competitive as an ITB, with the current 8v powerplant.

[lateapex911]

Welcome-

I'm no VW expert, so you might want to post this in the car section.

If the car you run is identical in every way to the cars listed on the pec line, then you are OK.

So, if your car came with a 40 liter engine, and the chassis is a year later than those listed, but other wise identical, you can run that chassis after installing the proper engine and any other bits that aren't common between the years, except where the GCR allows modifications.

It can be confusing, but, the first bit of advice I give to anyone contemplating racing is:

1- Buy a built car, as opposed to building one. The money savings are HUGE, and the time savings are too, and ..........
2- Get a GCR, and read it, cover to cover.

[VWralley]

thanks guys!

i really just needed to know if it was legal to do so an you guys definetly helped me out there.

i have been shopping for a car for a bit, an nearly nabbed a perfect setup mk2 ITA car but it sold before i could come up with the money.

i'll never race nationally, so im just looking to build a fun track car, that will eventually become a full on race car

now what i cant figure out is if i can change the fuel injection from CIS to EFI...

[JamesB]

If you stick with the 8v by the current rule set you could convert to digifant (all the digi parts) and adapt a megasquirt or similar brain to it. If your looking to go from track car to race car (IT is a regional class and the rules still apply,) your best bet is to read the GCR and build the car legal to class rules rather then building something with nowhere to go.

If you go 2L 16v, you are stuck with CIS-Motronic.

[VWralley]

i have the GCR right in front of me haha, i dont see it say you cannot change forms of fuel injection as i have seen in say production class rules. an it also does not specify the fuel injection each engine is suppose to have in teh car index, where as the scirocco says specifically...

which is why i asked. there is always the "if it doenst say you can, don't" but it seems in other classes it specifies which you can/cant use, an if its not allowed to convert from mechanical to cis etc...

thanks for the help!

see my issue is there is 1 maybe 2 most of the time no ITB cars, but they run in the same group as the ITA cars. there is about 20 ITA cars, an a similarly prepared car ( a guy i regularly help out, an pits next to the guy i crew for) runs in the top five as far as times go. now i know i wont show up an be a front running car, but it definatly seems with enough work an time, i could be a front running car in a good sized class.

[VWralley]

just to clarify,

ITB 8v (it is a digi car) an i can run MS. but i have to retain an use the stock AFM?

ITA 1.8 or 2L 16v, but must retain correct CIS