8 Hour race at Road Atlanta scheduled

[Cobrar05]

NASA Southeast has scheduled an 8 hour endurance race at Road Atlanta on December 5, 2008.

If you want another longer enduro on the east coast, be sure to enter.

NASA :: South East Region

[RacerBowie]

Why oh why can't it be SCCA instead of NASA SE. bummer.

Hopefully Butch's long race idea pans out next year, rather than getting messed up by the track being closed.

[Xian]

Does NASA require a HANS now or was the semi-permanently delayed?

[Cobrar05]

A h and n restraint is required. It does not have to be a HANS however.

[Xian]

Any idea if it is required to be SFI approved? I've got an Isaac device that I've used for several years...

Thanks!
Christian

[tom_sprecher]

A h and n restraint is required. It does not have to be a HANS however.

I'm out. I keep forgetting NASA requires that and it stops me from racing NASA events. Too bad.

[Cobrar05]

Any idea if it is required to be SFI approved? I've got an Isaac device that I've used for several years...

Thanks!
Christian

Yes, SFI rating is required. I use a Hybrid from Safety Solutions.

[Cobrar05]

I'm out. I keep forgetting NASA requires that and it stops me from racing NASA events. Too bad.

We all seem to have our issues. SCCA won't let me race my Mustang in enduro competition outside of Road Atlanta.

I have no issue with the H&N restraint requirements. I have a halo racetech seat in my car based on NASA regulations and the H&N based on regulations. I didn't want to have to spend that money, but once it was spent I will admit to feeling much safer.

Its safety gear you should have. But thats just my opinion. When I race SCCA races I wear my H&N.

[RacerBowie]

We all seem to have our issues. SCCA won't let me race my Mustang in enduro competition outside of Road Atlanta.

I have no issue with the H&N restraint requirements. I have a halo racetech seat in my car based on NASA regulations and the H&N based on regulations. I didn't want to have to spend that money, but once it was spent I will admit to feeling much safer.

Its safety gear you should have. But thats just my opinion. When I race SCCA races I wear my H&N.

I have a H&N system. It is called Isaac, I feel it is the best and safest on the market, and NASA won't let me use it, so I don't race with them. Period.

[Xian]

We all seem to have our issues. SCCA won't let me race my Mustang in enduro competition outside of Road Atlanta.

I have no issue with the H&N restraint requirements. I have a halo racetech seat in my car based on NASA regulations and the H&N based on regulations. I didn't want to have to spend that money, but once it was spent I will admit to feeling much safer.

Its safety gear you should have. But thats just my opinion. When I race SCCA races I wear my H&N.

True... every organization has it's good and bad points.

Not to turn this into a H&N discussion, but I don't have an issue with a H&N requirement. The catch is that my H&N system is excluded b/c of the SFI verbiage. I too have a Halo seat (Recaro) and right side safety net... all in all a very safe setup but I'm not ready to spring another grand for an SFI H&N system when the one I have is, IMO, the safest thing on the market.

Hopefully NASA will open up it's H&N policy or I may be forced to change my device of choice if SCCA and all the other clubs go the same route as NASA. Regardless, it sounds like the RA event will be a blast. Best of luck and thanks for the FYI that it's on the calendar!

Christian

[Cobrar05]

My take is that the SFI requirement is going to continue thru the racing groups. Its pretty clear that NASA business model is to be more inclusive and not less so. So, my take on this particular issue is that they made their choice with the idea that it was made within the mainstream.

[gsbaker]

My take is that the SFI requirement is going to continue thru the racing groups. Its pretty clear that NASA business model is to be more inclusive and not less so. So, my take on this particular issue is that they made their choice with the idea that it was made within the mainstream.

It is not within the mainstream.

Their thinking is different since a NASA DE driver broke his neck in two places in a side impact a couple of weeks ago. Had he been a racer and not allowed to use an ISAAC, he would be suing NASA into the next dimension.

Talk about dodging a bullet. Those guys need to find a lawyer who can learn them some risk mitigation.

[Cobrar05]

ok...I am just here to mention the race. road atlanta is popular and eight hour races are rare.

i am really not into the politics of this stuff. i am not trying to sell a product. i don't support one product
over another.

btw...educate me. is the isaac approved for nascar, irl, nhra, alms, or grand am?

[pgipson]

NASA Southeast has scheduled an 8 hour endurance race at Road Atlanta on December 5, 2008

I lived in and around Atlanta for a few years. An 8 hour race on the 5th of December may be a challenge. Certainly won't need a cool shirt.

[erlrich]

btw...educate me. is the isaac approved for nascar, irl, nhra, alms, or grand am?

not sure about NHRA, but nope on the rest - SFI took care of that.

[gsbaker]

...btw...educate me. is the isaac approved for nascar, irl, nhra, alms, or grand am?

Those places where the decision was made 5+ years ago and everyone uses a $10K seat? No.

[Cobrar05]

Those places where the decision was made 5+ years ago and everyone uses a $10K seat? No.

Do Koni Challenge and Miller Cup cars have $10k seats in them? Are you saying that the more expensive seat allows NASCAR and ALMS to require an inferior H&N device?

I realize that Safety Solutions thinks the R3 and the Hybrid are better than HANS. I imagine that my friends at HANS would say the same about them. So, that ISAAC LLC would think both HANS and Safety Solutions are inferior and politically proped up is natural as well. I am just not sure why its necessary to degrade NASA over their SFI requirements when each of the pro race groups seem to require the same.

[Cobrar05]

I lived in and around Atlanta for a few years. An 8 hour race on the 5th of December may be a challenge. Certainly won't need a cool shirt.

VIR at the end of October for 13 Hours ain't no picnic either, but its a popular race.
The originally scheduled 5 hour race that Butch attempted was in February. Yes?
Don't beat down December til you've seen what February is like there.

[shwah]

Is this the part where everyone jumps on a NASA bashing band wagon like they did at the NASA forum at the mention of ITFest, or do we not do that here?

Just wondering

[Cobrar05]

Registration is open for the 8 Hour at Road Atlanta in December. Its a real bargain.
NASA :: South East Region