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    Default Revisiting fuel starvation problem

    I know this subject is. I'm thinking of trying out one of the tanks from http://discountgastanks.com/search/?...ETTA/index.htm

    Was wondering if anyone has tried these tanks and if they had any success with them? I saw over at vwvortex that as long as they part # ends in B that the pick-up tube is metal and there is a metal baffle in the tank. I've heard some good things about the tanks and that they solved the problem on right hand turns, but have not heard from any road racers.

    I don't want to go with a cell as IMHO the tank is in the optimum location.

    The surge tank is another option, but do I have to get a 2nd pump?
    Last edited by jay05; 03-26-2008 at 08:21 AM.

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    A small (1to 1 1/2 qt) surge tank and facet type lift pump in the spare tire well is the way to go in my opinion.
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    do i need a lift pump with the surge tank out of fox or golfII?
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    Still looking for a solution to this problem for my tank as well. I put in an aftermarket tank, but it has no baffles or surge tank area.

    I'm using the Golf in-tank pump in addition to the standard in-line VW pump, but still losing fuel pickup at half full!

    Solving the problem currently by just running a full tank for every race, as I'm sure the GTI can use the extra weight in the rear.

    Maybe I should just "fuggiddaboutit"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay05 View Post
    The surge tank is another option, but do I have to get a 2nd pump?
    Yes, you'll need an in-tank pump to get fuel to the surge tank. I'm using the golf in-tank pump connected directly to the in-line pump, but it still pumps air at about the half-empty point.

    I guess I need to find a surge tank, wasn't aware the Golfs came with these until now.
    Dave Webb
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    Is a surge tank (in conjunction with the stock tank) allowed in IT?

    Can't find where it is allowed in the rules.
    Last edited by keycom; 06-23-2008 at 05:36 PM.
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    Here is the VW part that we use. 533-201-511 A
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    Thank you sir!

    Guess I've just gotta figure how to call it a "filter" or "fuel regulator".

    It will regulate the fuel when I go round corners.
    Dave Webb
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    Eureka, VW actually calls the part a filter!:026::026::026:


    and found one on EBay already!
    Last edited by keycom; 06-25-2008 at 03:40 PM.
    Dave Webb
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    How about that? :cool:

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    Just curious, for comparision - does your stock system also have a fuel accumulator(s)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 924Guy View Post
    Just curious, for comparision - does your stock system also have a fuel accumulator(s)?
    Yes, the Mk 1's do - 77-84
    Dave Webb
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